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  1. #591
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaciscokidd View Post
    To address there first line of your comment. I think we must got our lines crossed. I basically said that people need to vote with there wallets but if enough people still buy it though the vocal will be pushed off as the vocal minority in the eyes of the people making the decision.

    But on why the CC is on the Mogstation, its just SE trying to make a profits. Even when combined with DQX its at the bottom of the digital earning barrel which is not a good look for either IP when it comes to who matters to SE(not the devs) the shareholders. I love this game, but if you just watch what other companies are doing it would be quicker and more profitable to put funds into the gatcha/loot box market where you can get a proper whale and not a whale that just spent $30 dollars on a one time purchase per account. CC being on the mogstation is far from the worst case scenario. But the next two quarter earning statements(post boost in pop and post EW launch) will help to see where they go with future mog station products.

    TBH I know Yoshi P is not in charge of what goes on the store, but I want to know if they at least consult him for input or did they do there own research into what will be good for what goes up.
    Going to take a wild guess and say they do consult him. It would be kinda of stepping on his toes to not talk to him first.
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    If you ever pay attention to SE's quarterly earnings reports,their catalog of mobile/gatcha games produce the most money, not the MMOs or the HD games. Japanese affinity for gatcha is also higher than NA. Whether it's for more pulls or cosmetics, pulling out the credit card to top-up wallets are normal things.

    I also think some people live in a bubble and actually think people can't afford these things, which is far from the truth. For all you know 1 in every 3 people in your FC is a whale and you don't even know it. Nonetheless, $29 for me is all my toons get the mount and this game is lasting almost forever according to YoshiP so it's a steal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    You missed mine..its part of Endwalkers as in it has a role in the story. It also first appeared in FF4..
    is it?i don't think they have said anything about the Lunar whale
    unless just speculation since moon+Whale
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  4. #594
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    is it?i don't think they have said anything about the Lunar whale
    unless just speculation since moon+Whale
    We are going to the moon in Endwalkers and in FF4 it was used for that purpose. So if they are referencing FF4 in Endwalkers then would make sense that the whale would take us to the moon. Could be wrong but given how they reference other FF games its a strong possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaray View Post
    It's a FF8 nostalgia item, it's first introduction to FFXIV was immediately as a cash shop item. It did not exist in any capacity in FFXIV before then, so you missed my point.
    Lunar Whale isn't in any way connected to FF8 and never showed up there, it's a ship in FF4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaciscokidd View Post

    TBH I know Yoshi P is not in charge of what goes on the store, but I want to know if they at least consult him for input or did they do there own research into what will be good for what goes up.
    From what little he says they interact but the mog station head outranks him (and scares him):
    https://www.mmorpg.com/interviews/eo...cap-2000106271
    Q: Will we get a certain outfit from the mog station?

    A: Does everyone want that? Not a lot of response from the crowd. So with the Mog Station it is ruled by a powerful empress. More power than I am. She has mentioned creating this uniform and gear would be very difficult and costly. Basically said if everyone promises to purchase this new item we might consider making it. Would you promise to buy it? (The crowd had mixed reactions). I guess I’ll have to do it.
    So if she says it happens.. I'm pretty sure it happens and unless he wants to try and but heads with higher ups (VERY unjapanese) he just lets it go.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  7. #597
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    From what little he says they interact but the mog station head outranks him (and scares him):
    https://www.mmorpg.com/interviews/eo...cap-2000106271


    So if she says it happens.. I'm pretty sure it happens and unless he wants to try and but heads with higher ups (VERY unjapanese) he just lets it go.
    Uh no.

    YoshiP's official title at SE is Vice President of Creative Business Unit III (FFXIV/XVI teams), and he is on the Board of Directors. Even if he has the youngest tenure on there, he's at the table with CEO Matsuda. Considering MMO is a large line item on the earnings report, he'll do whatever it takes to keep the profits going.
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  8. #598
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    Uh no.

    YoshiP's official title at SE is Vice President of Creative Business Unit III (FFXIV/XVI teams), and he is on the Board of Directors. Even if he has the youngest tenure on there, he's at the table with CEO Matsuda. Considering MMO is a large line item on the earnings report, he'll do whatever it takes to keep the profits going.
    Marketing director is likely on the board as well. Which is why she out ranks him..been there longer.
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    Either way I'm all for business having the freedom to do what they want, If they want to sell it on a shop. That is well within right to do it. Consumers we can say we are displeased, but as long as we keep paying and sticking around. Our displeasure means nothing to the company. As it should not. Who cares if we are unhappy? That is just how a business is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    Uh no.

    YoshiP's official title at SE is Vice President of Creative Business Unit III (FFXIV/XVI teams), and he is on the Board of Directors. Even if he has the youngest tenure on there, he's at the table with CEO Matsuda. Considering MMO is a large line item on the earnings report, he'll do whatever it takes to keep the profits going.
    Even on boards of directors, there is often discrepancy in levels of power between board members, either by achievement or seniority. Being a board director also doesn't supersede decisions made by the board itself, if they had come to an majority agreement to say, tell Yoshi-P to listen to the Mogstation head. I personally doubt it, but I have seen it happen in other companies before, so i wouldn't dismiss the possibility.

    Speaking from my time as a game developer that had a separate team who handled microtransactions though, it's very likely the Mogstation head & Yoshi-P co-ordinate and discuss ideas the mogstation wants to do and Yoshi-P signs off on things to make sure the mogstation team doesn't make something the lead dev team was planning to do, as that would be a complete communication failure between teams and just cause issues.

    Alternatively, there's a good chance someone on the main dev team has a 'scrapped idea' list they maintain about outfits, minions or mounts they wanted to create and add into the game but couldn't due to various reasons; whether lore, time or 'not feeling right' based, which the mogstation team then scans through and selects ideas based on without input from Yoshi-P.

    One way or another, CC was never planned to be in-game, if the mogstation handn't picked it up, it was very likely to be sitting in the endless void of cut content.
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    Last edited by Daeriion_Aeradiir; 08-17-2021 at 05:50 AM.

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