To all the LGTBQ players

[MilkieTea]

Stop making this about sex and genitals. Straight relationships aren't only about that, are they?

Sometimes I question whether that's it. Like, they view their partner as a set of genitals and so they think that LGBT folks do the same. /jkjk

Seriously though, straight relationships aren't just about genitals. Neither are LGBT relationships.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

Tbf they aren’t entirely wrong, at least with the brotherly/sisterly. Look at the people obsessed with pushing the idea of Ryne and Gaia being canon lovers.

You mean the same way straight people consistently push men and women together in any form of media where they so much as make eye contact?

You mean how straight people will glorify toxic and abusive relationships where a man mistreats and acts like his wife is somehow a great burden on his life, while she either meekly goes about doing everything she can to make him happy - or, on the flip side, seems to hate him just as much?

Yeah, don't act like people trying to find romance in everything is an LGBTQ+ thing.

God forbid we look for representation amid all the toxic straight garbage media feeds people on a daily. If straight people get to interpret 2 seconds of eye contact between a man and a woman as the height of romance, LGBTQ+ can interpret a clearly close bond and deep care between two people of the same sex as romantic (and no, I don't just mean Ryne and Gaia in specific).

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Another funny moment from ShB for me, now that I think about it: The look our WoL makes after Titania shows up with the pixie army to help us at Mt. Gulg, but is clearly angry we didn't actively call for them like they told us to. The guilty little grin the WoL gives when you choose the "I think they're mad at me" option is one of the best.

In general, I loved how expressive the WoL was in ShB. It's a far cry from the early days in the MSQ (which I am reliving lately).

[Karthunk]

This is exactly what this forum required. Another one of these threads.
How about stop trying to stir up trouble?

[Wavaryen]

I judge people how they act, not who they love. So it is not really an issue to me. I know it is hard living in a world with deep religion ties that tells you your way of living is wrong. I'm understanding, but my god the passive aggressive nature in some of the LGTBQ community makes it really hard to put up with. But, i guess that is also understandable considering how people to this day still act around you. I just wish this whole representation movement would stop. Giving the ok for companies to use your movement for profits comes at a heavier price than people really think, and if the gamers only care about quality of game and enjoyment. So when a game is bad, they always point to "woke" issues and it sets you back.


I really don't have a right answer as it is not my fight, and I can't really fight for a cause I don't understand. All I can do is cheer you on, and hope that things get better. Be it good or bad religion is slowly dying. Now it is just a tool for the older people, in fear of dying and what that brings. So no matter how sad it feels to see people hating, just know the wind is at your back. Even if it does not feel it.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

This is exactly what this forum required. Another one of these threads.
How about stop trying to stir up trouble?

How about people stop making threads condemning an entire group of people all over the world just because they aren't straight? And saying they're wrong and sinful and pedophiles and should die, on top of that?

Don't like a positive post? Go back to your little salt mines and ignore it. I assure you, no one will miss you.

I'm understanding, but my god the passive aggressive nature in some of the LGTBQ community makes it really hard to put up with. But, i guess that is also understandable considering how people to this day still act around you.

We tried being nice and passive, and people still slaughter us in the streets. So yes, I think the 'passive agression' is pretty dang warranted by this point. Thank you for your support, though; literally all most of us are asking is just for the right to even freaking exist.

[Wavaryen]

How about people stop making threads condemning an entire group of people all over the world just because they aren't straight? And saying they're wrong and sinful and pedophiles and should die, on top of that?

Don't like a positive post? Go back to your little salt mines and ignore it. I assure you, no one will miss you.



We tried being nice and passive, and people still slaughter us in the streets. So yes, I think the 'passive agression' is pretty dang warranted by this point. Thank you for your support, though; literally all most of us are asking is just for the right to even freaking exist.

As I said I'm understanding but it still is a very annoying thing to put up with. It is like that person who always yelling and upset. Sure they have a reason to be, but it still makes it hard for people to put up with. I think that energy needs to be pointed in the right way. Aka at the gov, and getting more and more rights. Because after this covid thing, We see the quality of people in "usa" if you are from it. We are dumb as bricks, and so hard headed set in our own ways. That it is a losing battle trying to deal with the people, and passive aggressive just puts fuel on the fire.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

As I said I'm understanding but it still is a very annoying thing to put up with. It is like that person who always yelling and upset. Sure they have a reason to be, but it still makes it hard for people to put up with. I think that energy needs to be pointed in the right way. Aka at the gov, and getting more and more rights. Because after this covid thing, We see the quality of people in "usa" if you are from it. We are dumb as bricks, and so hard headed set in our own ways. That it is a losing battle trying to deal with the people.

People are trying, trust me. And yet progress continues to be slow, people continue to kill LGBTQ+ just for existing, people continue to scream and yell because we ask for basic human rights, people say we're disgusting and idiotic because we see representation of ourselves between some same-sex characters in various media, it goes on and on and it isn't even as bad in the USA as elsewhere. Some countries still stone you to death if you're even suspected of being LGBTQ+.

So until our people stop dying in the streets, we're going to keep yelling. That's all most of the world seems to understand anymore; whoever yells the loudest gets listened to. You can dislike that if you want, but we've tried every other way and this is the only way that seems to be pushing some ground whatsoever.

Either way, what exactly is the point of bringing negativity into a positive thread that doesn't even have this as a primary topic? Some of y'all need to learn how to use the ignore feature. (Not aiming this directly at you, Wavaryen, but in general)

[Wavaryen]

People are trying, trust me. And yet progress continues to be slow, people continue to kill LGBTQ+ just for existing, people continue to scream and yell because we ask for basic human rights, people say we're disgusting and idiotic because we see representation of ourselves between some same-sex characters in various media, it goes on and on and it isn't even as bad in the USA as elsewhere. Some countries still stone you to death if you're even suspected of being LGBTQ+.

So until our people stop dying in the streets, we're going to keep yelling. That's all most of the world seems to understand anymore; whoever yells the loudest gets listened to. You can dislike that if you want, but we've tried every other way and this is the only way that seems to be pushing some ground whatsoever.

Either way, what exactly is the point of bringing negativity into a positive thread that doesn't even have this as a primary topic? Some of y'all need to learn how to use the ignore feature. (Not aiming this directly at you, Wavaryen, but in general)

Ya, but change is going to be slow. Heck we still don't even got decent health care here. Also your battle is going against 2.000 years of religion that has very deep roots in people. And I agree, the negative is silly. Like I said since it is not my battle, and I don't understand it. All I can do is tell how I feel, and see how the other side feels. Learn from your perspective and be supportive.

[KizuyaKatogami]

You mean the same way straight people consistently push men and women together in any form of media where they so much as make eye contact?

You mean how straight people will glorify toxic and abusive relationships where a man mistreats and acts like his wife is somehow a great burden on his life, while she either meekly goes about doing everything she can to make him happy - or, on the flip side, seems to hate him just as much?

Yeah, don't act like people trying to find romance in everything is an LGBTQ+ thing.

God forbid we look for representation amid all the toxic straight garbage media feeds people on a daily. If straight people get to interpret 2 seconds of eye contact between a man and a woman as the height of romance, LGBTQ+ can interpret a clearly close bond and deep care between two people of the same sex as romantic (and no, I don't just mean Ryne and Gaia in specific).
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I’m talking about specifically in game since this is in game forums. I don’t really see people doing that for the other characters no not really. But it’s been a very prominent thing for people to obsess over the two underaged girls’ sexuality and try to push the false notion of them being gay. I never said it was an lgbtq only thing, i’m giving a specific example about the game we are discussing and not other off topic examples. But as a member of the lgbt myself, i’ve noticed it’s a very prominent thing with the community. Constantly trying to find every sliver of someone being gay or making jokes about it. It’s one of their biggest hypocrisies. They get upset when other people do it but they do the same lol.

[Anya_Synia]

I am wondering are the people condemning this thread also condemning the troll threads. If they are not which I presume they are just ignoring them, it's a bit hypocritical.