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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Considering he likes WoW, where you don't have much room to dps between heals, no wonder the devs are so adamantly holding onto the 'healers must only heal' ideal. To add insult to injury, even WoW healers have a wider dps kit than XIV healers.

    Holy Priest:
    -bread and butter damage spell [not-Glare]
    -dot [not-Dia]
    -nuke/dot with a 15 sec cd [mini Assize]
    -nuke that stuns with a 1 min cd [mini Holy]
    *casting not-Glare lowers the cd of mini Holy by 5 seconds, and has a 20% chance to reset the cd of mini Assize* (I'm fairly certain this was the inspiration for 4.0 lilies)

    White Mage:
    -bread and butter damage spell [Glare]
    -dot [Dia]
    -aoe nuke/heal [Assize]
    Glare Dia Assize Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Dia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

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    Acece Ace
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    Diabolos
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Considering he likes WoW, where you don't have much room to dps between heals, no wonder the devs are so adamantly holding onto the 'healers must only heal' ideal. To add insult to injury, even WoW healers have a wider dps kit than XIV healers.

    Holy Priest:
    -bread and butter damage spell [not-Glare]
    -dot [not-Dia]
    -nuke/dot with a 15 sec cd [mini Assize]
    -nuke that stuns with a 1 min cd [mini Holy]
    *casting not-Glare lowers the cd of mini Holy by 5 seconds, and has a 20% chance to reset the cd of mini Assize* (I'm fairly certain this was the inspiration for 4.0 lilies)

    White Mage:
    -bread and butter damage spell [Glare]
    -dot [Dia]
    -aoe nuke/heal [Assize]
    Glare Dia Assize Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Dia
    That's their base dps kit too, they can spec into a boomerang heals/dps spell with a 15 sec cd or a big old aoe damage/heal every 40 sec cd. I think they also have an execute now which is fun. Holy priest is considered the "beginner healer" but they also have the most amount of buttons of all the healers.
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    Brunox Sky
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Considering he likes WoW, where you don't have much room to dps between heals, no wonder the devs are so adamantly holding onto the 'healers must only heal' ideal. To add insult to injury, even WoW healers have a wider dps kit than XIV healers.

    Holy Priest:
    -bread and butter damage spell [not-Glare]
    -dot [not-Dia]
    -nuke/dot with a 15 sec cd [mini Assize]
    -nuke that stuns with a 1 min cd [mini Holy]
    *casting not-Glare lowers the cd of mini Holy by 5 seconds, and has a 20% chance to reset the cd of mini Assize* (I'm fairly certain this was the inspiration for 4.0 lilies)

    White Mage:
    -bread and butter damage spell [Glare]
    -dot [Dia]
    -aoe nuke/heal [Assize]
    Glare Dia Assize Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Dia
    Yea, good point. Virtually every MMO anywhere has a more entertaining experience for healing characters than FF14. That's why I'm praying we see a return to 4.0 healing mechanics...but, Square Enix never communicates with their players so who the heck knows what they're going to do.
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Truen View Post
    Yea, good point. Virtually every MMO anywhere has a more entertaining experience for healing characters than FF14. That's why I'm praying we see a return to 4.0 healing mechanics...but, Square Enix never communicates with their players so who the heck knows what they're going to do.
    Please god not 4.0 White Mage.
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    I agree; WM 4.0 should have been brought up instead of bringing everything else down in 5.0...really a shame.
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    Esther Harper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truen View Post
    Yea, good point. Virtually every MMO anywhere has a more entertaining experience for healing characters than FF14. That's why I'm praying we see a return to 4.0 healing mechanics...but, Square Enix never communicates with their players so who the heck knows what they're going to do.
    4.0 when the best advice regarding lilies was "just ignore them, they suck".
    Good times.
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    Teno Gestalt
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    Moogle
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Considering he likes WoW, where you don't have much room to dps between heals, no wonder the devs are so adamantly holding onto the 'healers must only heal' ideal. To add insult to injury, even WoW healers have a wider dps kit than XIV healers.

    Holy Priest:
    -bread and butter damage spell [not-Glare]
    -dot [not-Dia]
    -nuke/dot with a 15 sec cd [mini Assize]
    -nuke that stuns with a 1 min cd [mini Holy]
    *casting not-Glare lowers the cd of mini Holy by 5 seconds, and has a 20% chance to reset the cd of mini Assize* (I'm fairly certain this was the inspiration for 4.0 lilies)

    White Mage:
    -bread and butter damage spell [Glare]
    -dot [Dia]
    -aoe nuke/heal [Assize]
    Glare Dia Assize Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Dia
    I have not played WoW in a long time (basically 2013), but looking at prog streams, I feel like they took inspiration from how healers used to dps in ffxiv and implemented it over there, while the reverse was done in ffxiv (basically removed all of our dps kit). Of course this failed hard in ffxiv as is shown by all the healers complaints.
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