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  1. #471
    Player
    Ranaku's Avatar
    登録日
    2019/03/08
    投稿
    1,196
    Character
    Echo Micacho
    World
    Raiden
    Main Class
    占星術師 Lv 100
    Quote 引用元:Zkieve 投稿を閲覧
    you keep atacking me personally when i have not even once atacked you ranaku, im gonna ignore everything you have to say until u make some sence.
    I mean you did read it obviously, it seems. Try to be less sad about stuff and get yourself some friends to have fun with. Not saying you don't have friends (just grab some of yours and play with them), just try to have more fun instead of crying all over the forums. The world isn't ending, well Hydaelyn is burning basically but the RL world isn't. People will still have fun in the future, you maybe too, maybe don't define your joy over a mount and rather over the people you meet along the way.

    That said i am close to my daily post limit so i am out of here anyways!
    (1)
    2021/08/15 10:20; Ranaku が最後に編集

  2. #472
    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
    登録日
    2021/02/28
    投稿
    3,472
    Character
    Kizuya Katogami
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    幻術士 Lv 81
    Quote 引用元:Ranaku 投稿を閲覧
    It's not like it isn't clear what you are signing up for.

    I will never understand how people can define their joy of a game over some silly mounts. The game offers so much content but the silly store mount is the last straw for you? Heck your love for this game has to be really really great.

    Dunno what is so wrong about supporting the company that brings us joy and good memories and not being a nihilistic emo kid about it. Just see it as a tip you can give them with getting something back.

    But heck, if a stupid mount makes a game so bad for you fellas, i won't cry about you leaving. I will in fact buy two mounts next time and give one away to make up for your sad lost sub fee. Cause i can.
    People already support the company with their subs, expansion purchase, and optional retainer purchase though. If we continue to get content loss like we’ve seen in ShB, then our support isn’t going very far. I’ve made my own fair share of purchases on the mogstation because i agreed before that it’s nice to support a company that constantly brings out new things. ShB stopped that feeling for me when i saw the constant downgrades in things despite it boasting the highest sales. We’ll see in Endwalker i suppose but considering their biggest promotional thing right now is stardew valley 0.5….not looking good.
    (3)

  3. #473
    Player
    Zkieve's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/03/08
    投稿
    731
    Character
    Skieve Shadowfang
    World
    Spriggan
    Main Class
    採掘師 Lv 80
    Quote 引用元:Ranaku 投稿を閲覧
    I mean you did read it obviously, it seems. Try to be less sad about stuff and get yourself some friends to have fun with. Not saying you don't have friends (just grab some of yours and play with them), just try to have more fun instead of crying all over the forums. The world isn't ending, well Hydaelyn is burning basically but the RL world isn't. People will still have fun in the future, you maybe too, maybe don't define your joy over a mount and rather over the people you meet along the way.

    That said i am close to my daily post limit so i am out of here anyways!
    posting disconfort over something i dont like in a game is a sign of not having friends, u sir are the definition of a white knight.And yes now i am atacking you personally.
    I will complaint everytime i dont like something over a game i play. you can debate, insult me, or run couse you are out of post, you have made clear your opinion have cero value here.
    (2)

  4. #474
    Player
    Ranaku's Avatar
    登録日
    2019/03/08
    投稿
    1,196
    Character
    Echo Micacho
    World
    Raiden
    Main Class
    占星術師 Lv 100
    Quote 引用元:KizuyaKatogami 投稿を閲覧
    People already support the company with their subs, expansion purchase, and optional retainer purchase though. If we continue to get content loss like we’ve seen in ShB, then our support isn’t going very far. I’ve made my own fair share of purchases on the mogstation because i agreed before that it’s nice to support a company that constantly brings out new things. ShB stopped that feeling for me when i saw the constant downgrades in things despite it boasting the highest sales. We’ll see in Endwalker i suppose but considering their biggest promotional thing right now is stardew valley 0.5….not looking good.
    I actually 100% agree with you there. It's a personal choice tho if the stuff we got is worth a tip. We got bozja and 3 raids basically in there for free and a extra ex trial. That is much more content that eureka brought us and without the light grind from the past expansions people hated.

    But yes, there could be more content. I miss the deepdungeons. And the second dungeon besides every story dungeon we got in the past. We still got no new pvp weapons nor a second shb pvp set. I understand that corona hit them too and i hope now that the pandemic is slowly over they own up to it in endwalker.

    But i tell all people the same story. I know how SE was before XIV. I rather shove all my money into their mouth instead of seeing SE again as it was, XIV is the only reason this company is still breathing and i rather see them making money and living on than them dying again and butchering other franchises like Deus EX.

    Quote 引用元:Zkieve 投稿を閲覧
    posting disconfort over something i dont like in a game is a sign of not having friends, u sir are the definition of a white knight.And yes now i am atacking you personally.
    I will complaint everytime i dont like something over a game i play. you can debate, insult me, or run couse you are out of post, you have made clear your opinion have cero value here.
    What i was telling you is to take some of your friends and have a fun time instead of drowning your mood in this topic. You seem to be really down about this topic and i feel with you. I didn't said you don't have friends, not at all. What i meant is, take the ones which are close to you and have a fun time and don't beat yourself down about this topic so much.
    (0)
    2021/08/15 10:34; Ranaku が最後に編集

  5. #475
    Player
    Alexandre_Noireau's Avatar
    登録日
    2018/12/18
    Location
    Ul'dah.
    投稿
    518
    Character
    Fredya Falenas
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    剣術士 Lv 81
    Quote 引用元:Vahlnir 投稿を閲覧
    Mogstation items are created for the Mogstation only. There is an entirely different team for that which has no bearing on what does or doesn't get added to be obtained in game. What gets added to the Mogstation (brand new items at least) were never going to be "free". They would have simply gone without existing. I'm aware that it doesn't fit peoples' agenda in this thread, but it's still an important fact that most are overlooking because it's an inconvenient truth in a false narrative.
    Explain me please how something that CAN BE in game wouldn't be able so unless you give the 3 digits behind your card.
    The only agenda here is that some people are defending abusive microtransactions: that doesn't transalate on a proper service to begin with it.

    Please stop pushing your zealous fanboyism of SE being able of no evil, no able of greedy corporative practicess.


    The Cruise Chaser could be dropped in Sastacha if they wanted. Or be free for all new accounts if they wanted to. There is no: "It can exist only through mogstation". Lmao.
    (6)
    "The will of my friends has etched into my heart, and now ill transform this infinite darkness into eternal light
    Unmatched in heaven and earth, one body and one soul that challenge the gods!"

  6. #476
    Player
    Vahlnir's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/12/01
    Location
    Tent In the Middle of Nowhere
    投稿
    9,647
    Character
    Elan Centauri
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    ガンブレイカー Lv 100
    Quote 引用元:Alexandre_Noireau 投稿を閲覧
    There is no: "It can exist only through mogstation". Lmao.
    Except there is. I'll ignore the insults and wait for you to get caught up to speed since they (Yoshi P specifically) have gone on record in stating as much.
    (0)
    2021/08/15 10:35; Vahlnir が最後に編集
    Quote 引用元:Naoki_Yoshida 投稿を閲覧
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  7. #477
    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
    登録日
    2015/01/10
    投稿
    715
    Character
    Teladi Bishop
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    漁師 Lv 90
    Quote 引用元:KizuyaKatogami 投稿を閲覧
    People already support the company with their subs, expansion purchase, and optional retainer purchase though. If we continue to get content loss like we’ve seen in ShB, then our support isn’t going very far. I’ve made my own fair share of purchases on the mogstation because i agreed before that it’s nice to support a company that constantly brings out new things. ShB stopped that feeling for me when i saw the constant downgrades in things despite it boasting the highest sales. We’ll see in Endwalker i suppose but considering their biggest promotional thing right now is stardew valley 0.5….not looking good.

    cost of making games and content goes up and sub has stayed the same for how long?
    (3)

  8. #478
    Player
    Zkieve's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/03/08
    投稿
    731
    Character
    Skieve Shadowfang
    World
    Spriggan
    Main Class
    採掘師 Lv 80
    Quote 引用元:Vahlnir 投稿を閲覧
    Mogstation items are created for the Mogstation only. There is an entirely different team for that which has no bearing on what does or doesn't get added to be obtained in game. What gets added to the Mogstation (brand new items at least) were never going to be "free". They would have simply gone without existing. I'm aware that it doesn't fit peoples' agenda in this thread, but it's still an important fact that most are overlooking because it's an inconvenient truth in a false narrative.



    I'm not personally attacking you. I'm disagreeing with your stance, and pointing out where the holes are in your point of view. I'm doing the same with others as well, which means whatever you think it is isn't personal.



    so you are ok if they add a titan car mount only obtainable by mogstation if i understand your position correctly ?
    am i correct assuming that?Becouse there is clearly a market for it.

    just so we are clear on were we both stand on the spectrum
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    2021/08/15 10:37; Zkieve が最後に編集

  9. #479
    Player
    Alexandre_Noireau's Avatar
    登録日
    2018/12/18
    Location
    Ul'dah.
    投稿
    518
    Character
    Fredya Falenas
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    剣術士 Lv 81
    Quote 引用元:Vahlnir 投稿を閲覧
    Except there is. I'll wait for you to get caught up to speed since they have gone on record in stating as much.
    Except there is not.
    There is no part of this game that requieres a cash shop. Imagine in fact: Mounts were released BEFORE there was any cash shop.


    Let reality crush down with it's weight - The cash shop is just an invented barrier, a paywall, behind which content that perfectly could be in game is not: Skill requiered = 3 digits behind a credit card - Amazing gameplay.
    (5)
    "The will of my friends has etched into my heart, and now ill transform this infinite darkness into eternal light
    Unmatched in heaven and earth, one body and one soul that challenge the gods!"

  10. #480
    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
    登録日
    2021/02/28
    投稿
    3,472
    Character
    Kizuya Katogami
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    幻術士 Lv 81
    Quote 引用元:Wavaryen 投稿を閲覧
    cost of making games and content goes up and sub has stayed the same for how long?
    Sub price may have stayed the same but the sub sales have gone up increasingly to more than make up for it. It’s common sense. Especially when it’s not like they’ve done anything like try to improve the engine or anything of that nature.
    (5)

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