A warning to FFXIV players

[Shougun]

I didn't comment on the cash shop stuff before, and there is another thread on this, so I'll just go two for one here but-

I personally believe cash shop should go great efforts to only sell stuff that doesn't feel like it was ripped from the game itself. New unique ideas or things from any of their other IPs. Like heck put some Deus Ex in there or Soul Reaver, Chrono Trigger, whatever.

I'm personally fine with cash shops if they're cosmetic and the funds generated result in more content in the game. SE has been good on that.

ShB, while amazing in terms of story, however has disappointed me in terms of volume of content. Dungeons cut, deep dungeons cut, Hildebrand cut, Beast tribe conclusion cut, many missing DNC/GNB weapons, still no healer designer on the team, nothing invested into tackling bots and crafting just no longer fun. That's just personal opinion, but while I'm happy paying my sub I don't feel like it's worth my money supporting them with extra funds.

Hopefully it's just Covid and bad resource management and things will pick up in Endwalker. Still enjoying the game so I'll keep optimistic until proven otherwise.



You buy the token for cash and sell it on the market board for gil. Thus it lets players directly buy gil from other players with real money, sort of like legal RMT.

You can buy the token for gil on the market board, then redeem it for cash shop value. Typically Enix gets a cut, so there's profit on every token sold for the company. This lets you buy anything on the mogstation with in game gil alone.

There are benefits to the system, it hits RMT hard and opens the entire cash shop to players for in game currency. I used to be all for the token. However in WoW its also opened the gates for P2W as boosting and carries for gold have skyrocketed. Therefore you can simply buy many things in game, endgame gear, boss kills, mounts, ect with real cash by simply selling tokens to obtain gold to buy them.

One thing I think worth noting though is people said this system would destroy RMT and botting, it may have had some impact but absolutely did not destroy them- thanks to Asmon coming to FFXIV a number of his videos of WoW were suggested and I've seen that they certainly have the problem still, and now they also get a fairly decent P2W / messed up economy vibe due to the system.

The main pro of this system, imo, is that it allows players to buy anything off the shop via the in game currency, making the shop accessible to players, while also allowing some people to play the game without having a financial impact. But, imo, it seems like the RMT / bot benefits people suggested would have in WoW, or in FFXIV, certainly are not the end result case. Not only that but it made the ultimate issue of RMT worse, since now it was officially protected / sanctioned (the p2w, b2w aspect that also impacts economy of certain items).

[ForctyusGold]

you still can get some nice looking stuff from just playing. cash shop is okay, but not everything there is gorgeous lol /mostly when theyre focusing only at female characters glams :C/
kinda lost about what is that OP post . whats WoW token ? why are you bringing something, some ppl will not understand ?? o.o im playing for 7 years or something and really not feeled about pushed to buy something from mog or we will something to you i mean chill . i want gobwalker mount but im struggling to find/make/join any party for that .

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I bought the Cruise Chaser because I love this game so much and just wanted to throw even more of my money behind the developers.

This is what matters.
You love the game, you love the product, you want to buy stuff for/from said game because you like it and want it, and to show some love to the devs...

[Alexandre_Noireau]

To a certain failure and unethical capitalistic practices that have this industry in general being a shithole.

[Puc]

Don't worry, I'll let you ride on it if you want to. i can't see what's unethical about selling a mount they made that has no impact on the gameplay. If you wanna ride it you can find me in Rhalgar's Reach if I'm on.

[Dyvid]

To a certain failure and unethical capitalistic practices that have this industry in general being a shithole.

So are you going to unsub and stop doing business with this highly unethical capitalistic company?

[Alexandre_Noireau]

So are you going to unsub and stop doing business with this highly unethical capitalistic company?

This is the equivalent of blaming me for global warming because i took too long of a shower.
The problem is not the product itself, nor really the company, but SOME of their practices.

I know of a certain game that touches that topic, of how things are not white and black, light and dark, good and evil: but normally there is some bad to the good and some good to the bad. It's called FFXIV, you can play it for free and it's expansion heavenswards. It's a good game, just some part of it's community seems to be zealous about it and really toxic.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

If you dont wanna pay for the mount, dont.
Its that simple, there is no bad practice here and the game is not suffering from it.

[Alexandre_Noireau]

If you dont wanna pay for the mount, dont.
Its that simple, there is no bad practice here and the game is not suffering from it.

But there is.
That mount has no equivalent in game - Thus this hurts mount collectors and people that actually wanted it.

I would have no issue with color variants of in game mounts being sold on cash shop - as long as they don't count for mount completion and were just that: color variants.

But as it is now, thats content that should be in game.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

But there is.
That mount has no equivalent in game - Thus this hurts mount collectors and people that actually wanted it.

I would have no issue with color variants of in game mounts being sold on cash shop - as long as they don't count for mount completion and were just that: color variants.

But as it is now, thats content that should be in game.

If you want it...buy it. If your a mount collector and you want it, then buy it. Its a premium mount that was designed and put into the game YEARs later. If it was a premium mount way back in Heavensward we might be having a different conversation. But at that time, it was not a mount.