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    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse12187 View Post
    As a reminder new players would need some way to access these cities without unlocking them via the MSQ, as well as any gil, which may seem insignificant to seasoned players, is a large chunk of change for people starting out.
    Yep, Totally understand that but would enjoy seeing the cities be used for more and become busier. I would love to see every city with tons of people walking around. Holidays being short and easier to implement I believe could do that but I understand.

    Also to comments like this one. I will point out that ishgardian restoration was not abiding by that rule and it seemed to be doing great. Would you consider that unfair or does it just make sense because it about that area?
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    Do know when first start the game your only able to access one city till you explore or get to where can use the airship from mainstory. I don't see a problem with other cities. It give the new players something to look foward to when they get there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dustdjinn View Post
    Yep, Totally understand that but would enjoy seeing the cities be used for more and become busier. I would love to see every city with tons of people walking around. Holidays being short and easier to implement I believe could do that but I understand.

    Also to comments like this one. I will point out that ishgardian restoration was not abiding by that rule and it seemed to be doing great. Would you consider that unfair or does it just make sense because it about that area?
    In regards to ishgardian restoration, that was not a time limited event that was only available for 2 weeks. The ranking may be over but people can still participate in it. Holidays are only available during their time frame and almost rewards you have to wait upwards of a year for only to pay real money for it.
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    Decorating, yes. Expansion locking, no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse12187 View Post
    In regards to ishgardian restoration, that was not a time limited event that was only available for 2 weeks. The ranking may be over but people can still participate in it. Holidays are only available during their time frame and almost rewards you have to wait upwards of a year for only to pay real money for it.
    Thats true! So you think that adding a non-limited time event is a better way to bring traffic back to the city, do you having anything in particular in mind?

    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Decorating, yes. Expansion locking, no.
    Thanks for your comment! Yea I can totally see Kugane all decked out in new years decorations.
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    Last edited by dustdjinn; 08-07-2021 at 09:01 AM.

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    If you really want to make new cities useful make new GCs
    otherwise yeah, it'd be nice to have the event decor added there since new housing areas also get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    If you really want to make new cities useful make new GCs
    otherwise yeah, it'd be nice to have the event decor added there since new housing areas also get it.
    At the last Endwalker reveal when Yoshi mentioned that they planned on having 6 starting cities back in 1.0 but it was too hard with the time constraints I was shocked. I agreed that would have been too much back then but adding those grand companys now would be amazing.
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    The other thing to remember is that even a holiday event would only make the cities populated for the duration of the event. They need more compelling reasons for people to need to go back to cities that aren't as popular that aren't just for a limited time. Though they have added things like collectible appraisers but some cities are still pretty barren. I'm not sure they will be able to do any one thing that will help, unless they make something highly desired that requires going to the non-popular cities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dustdjinn View Post
    At the last Endwalker reveal when Yoshi mentioned that they planned on having 6 starting cities back in 1.0 but it was too hard with the time constraints I was shocked. I agreed that would have been too much back then but adding those grand companys now would be amazing.
    There is a difference between 'starting city' and 'Grand Company' - cities are exactly that, where as the GCs are just volunteer militaries the 3 main city states of Eorzea set up to deal with the impending Seventh Calamity as their normal military forces are just small militias that are just glorified police forces and were in no position to defend Eorzea from the Garlean threat (this is why the Adventuring System actually exists, to make up for the manpower shortfalls in the citystates' militaries).

    Ishgard doesn't have a GC and never will because it already has a full standing army permenantly mobilized to deal with the Dragonsong War (and now, post War's end, are being tasked to aid the Alliance), and Ala Mhigo was conquered by the Empire so the Ala Mhigan military was long disbanded, reduced to the Resistance, thus now liberated the Resistance forces are reorganizing back into a proper military. And the 'sixth' citystate was the colony of New Sharlayan which was totally abandoned by Sharlayan itself when Ala Mhigo fell, and now doesn't count (Idlyshire is not Sharalyan and is just a glorified market town like Revenant's Toll).

    And yes Ishgard, Ala Mhigo and New Sharlayan were never included in 1.0 because of 1.0's famously difficult development - Ishgard was the closest players got and even then all players could do was stand at the locked gates of the Steps of Faith and look across at the glistening citadel, never to set foot in it pre-Calamity, and Ala Mhigo and New Sharlayan did not even get that, being referred to in the story and npcs for them appearing but their surrounding areas were never part of 1.0.

    Hence lore pretty much prevents any new GCs being formed I'm afraid (to say nothing of SE basically having moved on from them as actual content sadly).

    As for seasonal events taking place in other cities other than the three city states, SE never did that with FFXI either - special events were always limited to the three cities and nowhere else (with the possible exception of Jeuno's BGM being replaced by a Christmas themed remix for FFXI Christmas event, even though the actual event quests and minigames never took place there) - so I don't hold out much hope SE will change. There's always a first time though I guess.
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 08-07-2021 at 01:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    You answered yourself already. It is because new players. Even Ishgard, which is the first one outside base game, still require a lot of hours to reach. At level 15-30 players can still enjoy events without having to rush the game.
    A solution would be to double up on the event locations. So you can either start the Starlight Celebration in Gridania, or in Ishgard, and once you've completed it in one, you've completed it for both (but can do the repeatables in either).
    This would not only be more lore friendly, and provide an avenue for new plots (the new Ishgard Starlight event could be a new plot while the Gridanian version could be a repeat of last years or of... 2018 or something), but it would also ease up on congestion lag, spreading players between two zones instead of all crowding into one.
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