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  1. #191
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    Violet_Galaxy's Avatar
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    Mimi Peach
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    Balmung
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    Sage Lv 100
    People who go "WhAt?!" or "HUH??!" every time I use a lb on a trash pack as a ranged dps or when I use it against the final boss. I'm just tired of lb's not being used or if they are used, it's on the last 0.1% of the boss. Like, why are people so uptight over the lb's? I don't understand.
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  2. #192
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alxyzntlct View Post
    I'm curious, why?

    And do you mean as a general standard, or do you take the time to explain in chat to let folks know that you're going to actively pull mobs for the tank?
    Because there's little to no danger of mobs hitting a DPS or a healer a few times.
    Just because someone else gathered mobs doesn't mean the tank can't still do their tankly duties and hold them all.

    There's no reason to be salty, the position isn't being taken over and your job isn't being rendered useless, you can still do your job.
    Might behoove you to pick up the pace when it happens but it's not like it's the end of the world that someone else did something nice for you like gather you some mobs.
    (4)

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  3. #193
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    Ramesses's Avatar
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    Prince Nuada
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    Diabolos
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    Reaper Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SavageCipher View Post
    I'll start it off with (and this is pure protip for dps starting). Don't run ahead of the tank, even if you've done the dungeon plenty of times before...you will die, no one will heal you, and the tank is not going to follow you.

    I feel like this one has stood the test of time, in all my years healing and tanking, it alwas happens. You get some gung-ho archer or lancer, run ahead and boom, dead, because they thought the team would follow them.

    -Never ask for a recommendation....can't believe somebody would even....
    Likewise, not commending your teammates (especially tanks and healers) who do a great job throughout the dungeon run is an utter sacrilege.
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    Last edited by Ramesses; 08-05-2021 at 11:43 AM.
    "After ten years, finally headed to Sharlayan... absolutely stoked"


  4. #194
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    Plastics's Avatar
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    Plastic Spork
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    Zalera
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    - Most people have no idea if a DPS was good in a run, so commendations just go to healers/tanks. I main heal, and I will always give commends to DPS who play well.
    - Tanks who pull too much or not enough
    - Tanks who don't use CDs properly (specifically immunes, trust your healer, you do not need these 99% of the time in a dungeon unless SHTF)
    - Tanks who twist/spin bosses, stop it. Even if I'm unaffected, I'm forever scarred from playing Monk
    - Healers who panic heal DPS, or who don't DPS (I do like seeing the lightbulbs go on in sprout WHMs when I tell them about holy though), also Bloodbath and Second Wind are DPS CDs if used to gain uptime, if these get used, you probably don't need to heal
    - DPS who single target on AoE, unless a specific mob is targeted for priority, do maximum AoE, it's usually a lot more than you can do ST, and if a pull takes too long, the tank/healer are going to feel pain
    - DPS who don't use CDs on trash pulls, they'll come up again on the boss, and a lot of bosses tend to interrupt CDs right away with mechs
    - DPS who repeatedly get hit by the same mechanics -- if you screw up, go into learning mode and stop worrying about your rotation and just focus on the mechanics
    - people who aren't willing to let people watch cutscenes or learn, you were new once too, let's pay it forward

    And finally, people who get their panties twisted. Even if all of the above happen, stay chill, have a good time. Maybe kindly drop a suggestion into chat and most of the time they'll be grateful and consider doing it. At the end of the day, not everyone plays perfectly and nobody does all the time, so try to have fun.
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  5. #195
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    Slixi's Avatar
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    Rez Ravala
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    Typhon
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    Conjurer Lv 65
    Not a dungeon issue but trials.

    When the AST decides to pop shields rather than hots when you are on a scholar.
    Especially when they're doing it because you understand not everyone has to be at 100% HP or have a shield 100% of the time but they don't. Which also usually means they've not DPSing either.
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  6. #196
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    Tulzscha's Avatar
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    Tulzscha Abbith
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    Jenova
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    Reaper Lv 100
    As a healer: tanks that run super far ahead and out of los. Not too much of a problem for me anymore but when I was still learning it was hella annoying, especially when they round a corner and I can't do anything for even longer.

    As a tank: dps that pull ahead even when I'm going as fast as I can. I'm not the best tank but yeesh just let me do my job.

    As a dps: tanks that stop long enough for me to think they're done pulling and plop down an aoe only for them to move out immediately after. I swear it's like some of them watch for player aoes to move mobs out and if I don't drop one they stay put. Doesn't happen often though.

    Most of all: rude people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Derby_Crash View Post
    Healers putting regen on the tank before a pull. Drives me insane every time before I can get the aggro on all the mobs.
    I usually put up regen after the tank aggros the first pack then stay as close to them as I can. Some of the tanks I've had are almost dead by the time they stop and let me heal them properly. x.x
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    Last edited by Tulzscha; 08-05-2021 at 01:05 PM. Reason: typo

  7. #197
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    LisSquid's Avatar
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    Mother Kos
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    Hyperion
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Violet_Galaxy View Post
    People who go "WhAt?!" or "HUH??!" every time I use a lb on a trash pack as a ranged dps or when I use it against the final boss. I'm just tired of lb's not being used or if they are used, it's on the last 0.1% of the boss. Like, why are people so uptight over the lb's? I don't understand.
    I was going to post that, when running a ranged dps, when the tank or healer wastes the LB2 after a boss in a petulant "bad dps not gon use it ill show them" when I was going to use it on the next big pull to save us all time. :P
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  8. #198
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    Nethereal's Avatar
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    Deviously Enchanted
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Biggest peeve? Dps refusing to do any mechanics(the ones that are left) at all even if they're closer to them, (I.E standing in towers)forcing healing or a wipe.
    Scratch that my biggest peeve are toxic premades that circle jerk each other mid run while at the same time being useless human garbage, especially the ones that talk for or in place of their friends.

    Who would've thought this thread would have this many people who subscribes to the childish, egotistical, illogical, and literal griefing mentality of "You pull it you tank it." all while at the same time not seeing the irony of the situation.
    Truly par for the course in these forums. Player comfort > LITERALLY EVERYTHING ELSE

    Quote Originally Posted by Minarisweet View Post
    People who think prepull regen is bad when getting aggro off these mobs is a no brainer .
    I give them the sweet spot, regen after their first aoe.

    Quote Originally Posted by SavageCipher View Post
    Fair enough, but we all signed that invisible MMO-Holy trinity contract when we decide to do dungeons. DPS, falls in line, Healers follow the Tank, and said Tank, leads the way. If you find a way to tank with a dps or healer vs level appropriate minions, by all means, rock on, till then, we all understandthe totem pole. And thats coming from someone who has DPSed, Tanked and Healed in over 4 major MMO's...I learned to drop the ego quickly, someone always has to lead, and we always have to follow (in context).
    You have a very warped perception of the "Holy trinity" that seems to vastly favor your argument. I have another interpretation on the subject, Tanks hold aggro, dps deal damage, healers keep people alive.
    Everything past that is up to player discretion.
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    Last edited by Nethereal; 08-06-2021 at 11:13 PM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Someone
    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
    Quote Originally Posted by Someone 2
    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

  9. #199
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    Mimilu's Avatar
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Exodus
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Minarisweet View Post
    People who think prepull regen is bad when getting aggro off these mobs is a no brainer .
    For me, it's just something I've learned from playing as a healer since ARR. Back-in-the-day, tanks had 2 stances, a tank-stance (that decreased damage taken and increased enmity while also decreasing your own damage) and a DPS-stance (increased your damage and/or opened up DPS mechanics).
    The dev-team's plan was for those doing the actual tanking to stay in tank-stance and those off-tanking to be in DPS-stance until they needed to pull extra mobs.
    The playerbase instead would only use tank-stance when pulling till they had enough enmity, then switch to DPS-stance (usually like 2 AoE GCDs or 2 weaponskill combos) then min-max their damage to keep enmity (using DPS gear and Strength Materia).
    Placing a Regen pre-pull could ruin the enmity-balancing act.
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  10. #200
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    Rinh Neftereh
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    Biggest peeve? Dps refusing to do any mechanics(the ones that are left) at all even if they're closer to them, (I.E standing in towers)forcing healing or a wipe.
    better yet when it's a ranged dps and the tower is literally a yalm behind them
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