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[Pirana1]

I really wish Vet players would stop telling newcomers ARR is boring and a slog. It does have some pacing issues but it’s not awful to play at all. All you’re doing is giving a false bad first impression before they have a chance to make their own minds up.

About the only thing I mention regarding ARR is the final quest chain in which one has the arduous task of taking on the 75ish quests before HW. The overall time it takes to run through everything else is fast, especially if one isn't interested in the story. My own experience though, had the $11.00 story skip not been available, I would have un-subbed, it simply would have been a loss on my end financially and I would have moved on.

People need to know what they're getting themselves into when firing this game up. Whether it's the plethora of cut scenes or the fetch quests people have to endure while playing. From my perspective, people should absolutely know that and not be caught off guard, not much different than buying something from a store and finding out it wasn't what you thought it would be. Some are interested in combat, not watching a movie a huge chunk of the time.


I would still recommend this game to anyone, it does have a lot to offer.

[Larirawiel]

In comparison with all other expansions, it is. Not to mention, a big partion of new players have reportly quit during ARR slog.

For me as a WoW classic player the ARR content is not that sluggish. It is OK, not great but not so boring that i would stop playing it. And that many people stop playing the game before they reach max level this is normal. The reason why Blizzard rewamped the starting experience with Cataclysm was that 40% of players stopped playing before they reached level 10. Level 10 you had done in a couple of hours. And i don't know whether the new level experience in Cataclysm was better for the players or not.


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[Rinhi]

I really wish Vet players would stop telling newcomers ARR is boring and a slog. It does have some pacing issues but it’s not awful to play at all. All you’re doing is giving a false bad first impression before they have a chance to make their own minds up.

yup, I agree, while the amount of post MSQ was a bit much, I thought it was more engaging than early to late HW, which I found pretty boring, honestly

[Sotaris]

For me as a WoW classic player the ARR content is not that sluggish.

Yeah that's fair, wow quest system was worse lol.

[Puremallace]

For me as a WoW classic player the ARR content is not that sluggish. It is OK, not great but not so boring that i would stop playing it. And that many people stop playing the game before they reach max level this is normal. The reason why Blizzard rewamped the starting experience with Cataclysm was that 40% of players stopped playing before they reached level 10. Level 10 you had done in a couple of hours. And i don't know whether the new level experience in Cataclysm was better for the players or not.


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Every single time you see an FF14 player say ARR sucks just remember we are putting it in a frame of reference to the expansions. So if you like ARR just imagine something better...then better...then legendary.

[Krotoan]

Yeah that's fair, wow quest system was worse lol.

People who said he wasn't gonna get through the ARR patch quest desert don't realize he was tempered in the original WoW release quest grind. He even said so himself ".. yeah and? that's how you used to level for the whole game in WoW. This is gonna be EZ".

[Jadedsins]

I liked ARR better than stormblood to be honest. HW is still number 1. 2. ARR 3. shadow. 4 storm.


ARR world building really is good.

[Awha]

ARR is not so bad, compared to vanilla WoW ARR even pre revamp is nothing.

[Ilenya]

People who said he wasn't gonna get through the ARR patch quest desert don't realize he was tempered in the original WoW release quest grind. He even said so himself ".. yeah and? that's how you used to level for the whole game in WoW. This is gonna be EZ".

Honestly, that moment there was when I knew he'd be fine. My main worry was about the need to grind up DRK to 50 to use it in the story, but with that comment, I figured he'd be good to play as long as his whims allow him.

[Plastics]

In comparison with all other expansions, it is. Not to mention, a big partion of new players have reportly quit during ARR slog.

Having leveled through ARR to Shadowbringers about 7 times now, I will heavily disagree with this. SB is much worse than ARR. The reason people quit during ARR is because they're constantly told how bad it is, and so any negative reinforcement demotivates them and they stop playing. If your goal is to just skip through it and not care about anything, it is a lot of work to get through and you feel like you're wasting your time. It's mostly just a tutorial, but there's a ton of stuff to do and unlock in ARR, and by the time you get to the "pre-HW grind" as people call it, the story has picked up. Slow down, enjoy it, and it's completely fine.

I would happily recommend people skip SB and just watch a MSQ synopsis video, and it's the only part of the game where I think that recommendation is warranted. Specifically the MSQ, not the raid content, which you can do at any time.