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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyln View Post
    I just wish everyone didn't speak in a British accent. Especially the sailors where it's especially thick. I would love to see an Austrailian accent or a western American accent.
    They all have British accents because all the voice actors are British. The English voice acting studio is in London.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonDream View Post
    I absolutely hate how they use thee/thou, etc, all over the place, because they use it to mean formal speech when it is actually the informal/personal when it was in use in English?
    It's not being misused, though. Thee/thou is not used in-game towards people of higher rank/status by any speaker who differentiates the two. (And it's worth noting, English historically had multiple simultaneous dialectal conventions surrounding 'thou' vs. 'you'.)

    Note that you spend most of ARR either as a colleague, for whom constant use of 'you' among in-game dialects that differentiate the two would be rudely stand-offish, or as a stranger under the assumed status of a mere adventurer (in essence, a mere contractor, derpy recruit, or murder-hobo).
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    The one that really irks me is 'all right' instead of 'alright.' And the reason is simple: because, phonetically, there's nothing different about the pronunciations of the two - you're just utilizing a dated 'olde Englishe' two-word format, yet nothing is actually gained by doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeraRamis View Post
    The one that really irks me is 'all right' instead of 'alright.' And the reason is simple: because, phonetically, there's nothing different about the pronunciations of the two - you're just utilizing a dated 'olde Englishe' two-word format, yet nothing is actually gained by doing it.
    Opposite side of the coin: They've lost nothing to be accurate to the period they wish to capture, wherein the two words haven't yet been contracted among the majority of local speakers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Opposite side of the coin: They've lost nothing to be accurate to the period they wish to capture, wherein the two words haven't yet been contracted among the majority of local speakers.
    But what period? And accurate in what way? This isn't old English we're speaking. If that were true, the first thing that would need to change is that all our 's' letters would need to be altered to 'f' - that's something that only really happened at the beginning of the 19th Century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeraRamis View Post
    But what period? And accurate in what way? This isn't old English we're speaking. If that were true, the first thing that would need to change is that all our 's' letters would need to be altered to 'f' - that's something that only really happened at the beginning of the 19th Century.

    You realize "all right" -> "alright" was around the end of the 19th century, right? Not the 17th, as per Milton. Nor the early 19th.

    And even then, I'm sure there are some obvious technical reasons there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeraRamis View Post
    But what period? And accurate in what way? This isn't old English we're speaking. If that were true, the first thing that would need to change is that all our 's' letters would need to be altered to 'f' - that's something that only really happened at the beginning of the 19th Century.

    They weren't pronounced as F's... they're not even F's, they're 'long S's, so its not even a language issue, it's a typeface issue.
    It's like 'Ye Olde' is pronounced exactly the same as 'the old'. The e is silent and the Y isn't a Y, it's a thorn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    You realize "all right" -> "alright" was around the end of the 19th century, right? Not the 17th, as per Milton. Nor the early 19th.

    And even then, I'm sure there are some obvious technical reasons there.
    You realize that a) there are literally thousands of word changes over that same time span that this game does not use, b) Eorzea is not Earth, and - most crucially - that c) in your anal desire to score points, you're completely overlooking my primary argument: that as there is no phonetic difference between 'alright' and 'all right,' there is no benefit to employing such dated text when the words actually being spoken by the characters sound no different as a result.

    This isn't some situation where you've got a drawf speaking broken, highland tongue, 'an' yeh need all tha muffed up word play that ye've got tah convey jus' how strong ah' brogue tha lad 'as' - it's drama club nonsense that seeks to (and fails) to set a mood in the most impractical manner possible. Because, again, alright and all right sound the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    They weren't pronounced as F's... they're not even F's, they're 'long S's, so its not even a language issue, it's a typeface issue.
    It's like 'Ye Olde' is pronounced exactly the same as 'the old'. The e is silent and the Y isn't a Y, it's a thorn.
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