This game has serious free-rider problems and it's getting worse. A suggestion.

[Wavaryen]

Well, consider yourself counted amongst the problem children, then. If you're going to justify it, then you're a part of it.

There is no problem, it is a pug setting and people can play how they want in said setting.

The rules and design is clear, and it being the best mmo on the market right now it is hard to argue with the results of a more relaxed mmorpg.


The rules protect these people. You can't shame them into doing better. You can't do anything to them, and if you try you get in trouble. So what makes you think how they playing is wrong with the game design as it is?


You all can not like it. That does not matter. These players are what the game protects and encourages. Who are you to say they are playing wrong? The developers has content made for people who want to try hard, and has content design for people want to be lazy.

[TeraRamis]

Who are you to say they are playing wrong?

I'm sorry, but morality is not relative - only truly sinister people manage to convince themselves to the contrary.

Furthermore, you know what trumps game rules? What *I* think. It doesn't matter a damn to me what the SE team believes when it comes to this issue (or any issue, for that matter) - my opinion always comes first; is always paramount to what I am told, instructed, or informed-of. In every way; on every matter, I call things as I see them.

And as such, I judge - and condemn - you by my own code, not theirs. I will continue to identify, speak out towards, and initiate vote kicks against loafers whether it pleases the powers that be or not. And similar to the fashion that I cannot stop you from being the... regrettable person that you clearly are, you cannot stop me from showing freeloaders like you the door.

[Wavaryen]

I'm sorry, but morality is not relative - only truly sinister people manage to convince themselves to the contrary.

Furthermore, you know what trumps game rules? What *I* think. It doesn't matter a damn to me what the SE team believes when it comes to this issue (or any issue, for that matter) - my opinion always comes first; is always paramount to what I am told, instructed, or informed-of. In every way; on every matter, I call things as I see them.

And as such, I judge - and condemn - you by my own code, not theirs. I will continue to identify, speak out towards, and initiate vote kicks against loafers whether it pleases the powers that be or not. And similar to the fashion that I cannot stop you from being the... regrettable person that you clearly are, you cannot stop me from showing freeloaders like you the door.

I mean you can think what you want that is fine, but like i said the only way for you to get what you want is for the developers to agree with you. Since they don't, and you have no power to stop these players from playing like this.


And I respect that you do that, but the developers are the ones who get to say what is right and wrong in their game. You don't own this game, and it is a service. So you can voice how you feel and that is fine. That does not mean you are right. You can ask the developers to change it, but with how much profit they are making. They have no reason to care about your feelings on this matter.