The New Sage Icon, Thoughts?

[LisSquid]

While I can understand that it's a much easier change, I'm still godsmacked that this was an accessibility change while they continued to make the Nier Alliance Raids the most eye-straining experience possible well after having to change the brightness of Mt Gulg for the same reason.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Just someone’s opinion i thought was interesting on Reddit


“The only part that disappoints me is how Square is willing to actually accommodate for their Japanese playerbase. They give almost no shits about the EN playerbase.
For instance, the US had about twice the rate of epilepsy of Japan in 2016. And people, myself included, have complained about the absolutely awful implementation of lightning and flashing effects in this game, such as Alphascape V3.0. To memory, there is one mandatory solo instance in Stormblood where lightning was so bad that I took a minute to take a break in the middle, and I'm not even close to the level of sensitivity of other photosensitive people. I'm only to the extent of my brain saying, "hey, that's a little uncomfortable".
The only time we've gotten adjustment is with the third NieR raid, which had countless reports, and articles upon articles by multiple news outlets about genuine episodes. And it was only minorly adjusted. Literally the only way to get Square to react to anything that happens in EN is to force their hand and make it completely untenable for them to proceed.”

Gotta say i agree with this.

[Joven]

While I can understand that it's a much easier change, I'm still godsmacked that this was an accessibility change while they continued to make the Nier Alliance Raids the most eye-straining experience possible well after having to change the brightness of Mt Gulg for the same reason.

I don't think I've ever had a problem with either one of those instances being too bright since they've been out. Not calling foul on anyone, just never knew that was a problem.

[LisSquid]

I don't think I've ever had a problem with either one of those instances being too bright since they've been out. Not calling foul on anyone, just never knew that was a problem.

There were a couple of threads on here when Tower came out, but a few friends and I (who are equally visually impaired in different ways) joke about how getting Tower is the real dead que. I have trouble seeing values of similar hues so all of Copied Factory looks like this to me:



The noise was loud enough for the original Mt Gulg, which was a very similar thing to Tower currently. They dimmed it and corrected values on textures to where it is now good for most everyone. I now have a special mode in reshade to use if Tower pops, since it's a brightness more so than a value issue, that turns everything a dark purple.

[Joven]

There were a couple of threads on here when Tower came out, but a few friends and I (who are equally visually impaired in different ways) joke about how getting Tower is the real dead que. I have trouble seeing values of similar hues so all of Copied Factory looks like this to me:



The noise was loud enough for the original Mt Gulg, which was a very similar thing to Tower currently. They dimmed it and corrected values on textures to where it is now good for most everyone. I now have a special mode in reshade to use if Tower pops, since it's a brightness more so than a value issue, that turns everything a dark purple.

I haven't been on here in about a year and a half so I missed those threads, but that is interesting, thank you for clarifying.

[Bsrking5]

While the change is so minor to something im barely gonna pay any attention to, it does point out if your in JP or the JP forums you have 1000x more chance of getting a fix then EN. I feel bad for the other small languages that don't get the same treatment as JP because EN have a large enough playerbase to force SE on severe issues. Pretty sure you could start an organ...

[TaleraRistain]

I don't think I've ever had a problem with either one of those instances being too bright since they've been out. Not calling foul on anyone, just never knew that was a problem.

I'm not photosensitive but Mt Gulg when it came out was just blindingly bright. I couldn't see the ground AoEs half the time because of it. I still have trouble on some of them. For truly photosensitive people, it was a nightmare.

[RyuDragnier]

I'm not photosensitive but Mt Gulg when it came out was just blindingly bright. I couldn't see the ground AoEs half the time because of it. I still have trouble on some of them. For truly photosensitive people, it was a nightmare.

Do not remind me of that horror. I could barely do anything when it was like that, I got hit by almost everything because I could not see the AoEs.

[MoofiaBossVal]

The New Sage Icon, Thoughts?

Old design looked better.

[Shougun]

I would prefer this version. Keep the symmetrical style, but fill the holes (because the holes were actually the problem).

I don't care about the icon enough to be like CHANGE IT, and if it was a problem causing fear and disgust don't mind that it changed in the first place though hopefully there is a certain level of ... stubbornness...? on elements that are more important (like when it gets into story, it wouldn't do because someone is like "colonialism makes me feel uneasy, remove it - don't tell positive nor negative stories about it!"). I think on UI it should be a bit more bendable, then gameplay (important to take feedback, but also careful not to 180 the ship without very careful thought to every person's whim), and then story being the least likely to be like "that made you feel weird? I guess we remove it" (though again feedback should still be received, always be knowledgeable). So I don't think it was bad to adjust here, just taking a note off Theo's post and thinking that perhaps there is a hierarchy of where changes are made that cause greater or lessor concern (UI making as many pleased seems like good, but... good story might have some uncomfortable moments and I'd hate to see that hyper sanitized, yet I get the feeling SE isn't going to do that and I hope I'm not wrong lol). Not that SE does it, but of course I wouldn't want it so far opposite of sanitization that I need to cry myself to sleep every night.. which then begs the question and absolute joy and terror that is of opinions lol.....

Though of two notes- I liked the first one over the new one, and I did want to say while it doesn't ultimately matter to me.. I do like these more uniform ones more.