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    Ronduwil Thaliakson
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    There's quite a few here, actually, and that's just in this thread. I've had it enough times in group content.
    Then you should have quoted those instead of quoting the guy who was responding to someone who was frustrated that the tanks weren't pulling enough mobs to suit their preference.

    As for the BLM you were talking about, I have to question how much attention you were able to pay what you were doing if you were so busy watching what he was doing. Was your group wiping? If not, then you were already getting your reward without the need to waste everyone's time by picking a fight over someone's suboptimal rotation. What was your reward for giving unsolicited advice? None, because the duty roulette content is not designed with that in mind. Your reward for carrying this guy through the duty roulette comes in the form of tomestones and (potentially) commendations. If your effort really goes so far above and beyond the others', then someone in the party is bound to notice and throw a commendation your way.

    You're saying that "he was making as much result" as you were, but given that you also claimed to have successfully kicked him from a run, that's clearly not the case. If you progress into extreme, savage, and ultimate fights, I'm sure that your advice will be highly valued and appreciated. That's where you need to go if you want to be rewarded for that. Alternately, you can create a player guide and submit it to a web site or a resource like The Balance Discord server. I'm sure that you have plenty of valuable insight to offer. You just need to pick the right time and place to offer it.
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    Then you should have quoted those instead of quoting the guy who was responding to someone who was frustrated that the tanks weren't pulling enough mobs to suit their preference.
    I quoted that because they stated player standards. If I should mention an exact part from square, that actively notes onto that, it's arguable by completing ignoring a player that you might negative impact their experience, which is also a ToS violation. ... I swear everything in the vague ruling can be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    As for the BLM you were talking about, I have to question how much attention you were able to pay what you were doing if you were so busy watching what he was doing. Was your group wiping? If not, then you were already getting your reward without the need to waste everyone's time by picking a fight over someone's suboptimal rotation. What was your reward for giving unsolicited advice? None, because the duty roulette content is not designed with that in mind. Your reward for carrying this guy through the duty roulette comes in the form of tomestones and (potentially) commendations. If your effort really goes so far above and beyond the others', then someone in the party is bound to notice and throw a commendation your way.
    As I said, this one wasn't specifically duty finder. Square didn't match me with them, they joined my party. I said it was maps, and I get that snoozy ezpz content that I already have managed to see enough wipes in (Seriously...). That's why the kick was easy, and possible, I didn't have to ask group permission on if a guy doing... Fun math, assuming 100% uptime in doing it, 168 potency per cast, which is less than a jolt mage, for output.

    And the example of this person was to show how this usually goes. Was he on the higher end? Yes, not every person is going to tell me I should die of cancer for daring to mention my main class's abilities. But there's usually a very negative response, and it always seems to be after they first completely ignored me. If you don't want my advice, tell me, straight up, and then I'll at least know not to try vs it just being a ps4 player.

    If I want to bring up some higher stories, since you mention...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    If you progress into extreme, savage, and ultimate fights, I'm sure that your advice will be highly valued and appreciated. That's where you need to go if you want to be rewarded for that.
    I can mention Ruby EX's where healers told me off for asking tanks to take ads west and east so south is safe and lets me and other casters (including these healers) cast. I could talk about the SoS ex's where my partner straight refuses to do the partner mechanics, wiping the party, and how it's my fault for my class choice being BLM. I could talk about doing E2S when I tried to get into raiding, with monk specifically, and how asking for the boss to not spin, and for a melee position for mechanics meant I was just being an elitist parsing jerkwad.

    But, if we can get back to the main topic, where this was brought up specifically because of players who go into DR WHO CANNOT BE KICKED FROM THE DUTY and literally go suicide afk, then we can. <3 If I must I can direct you to the main post, since I can't quote properly.
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