Cruel and Unusual Punishment

[sum_mof]

Banned for 20 days for having inappropriately named retainers and an FC named "Cosby Klan". I pay to play this game. This is my first offense as a sprout. I was told there was nothing they could do because the 2 retainers and FC name change caused a pile up of reports and I couldn't be given a lighter punishment and that I wouldn't be given any kind of leniency. I don't want a slap on the wrist. Like. I just want a reasonable punishment for what I did wrong. Force me to change the names and 3-5 day ban. You are taking away 2/3 of my paid subscription for the month for a first offense name violation. The GM I spoke with was not helpful at all. Just repeating copy paste dialog rather than trying to actually talk with me and understand my point of view. Force closed the encounter when I was still trying to talk with them and figure out what I could do to prevent bans in the future. This is complete ass.

loooll you a loser

whats the difference between doing this kind of shit in the real world vs in a virtual world? you think a loss of $10 in value is something to cry about?? that IS a slap on the wrist
hilarious how you think you get to determine what the "reasonable" punishment is

in a hypothetical world where world peace is achieved, what are we gonna do then about these dumbasses that are still around?

[Ranaku]

loooll you a loser

whats the difference between doing this kind of shit in the real world vs in a virtual world? you think a loss of $10 in value is something to cry about?? that IS a slap on the wrist
hilarious how you think you get to determine what the "reasonable" punishment is

in a hypothetical world where world peace is achieved, what are we gonna do then about these dumbasses that are still around?

I think the answer to your last question is...teaching people how to write and express themself properly. You should take a class in that too. "loooll you a loser" isn't really a strong intro but i am glad you left the "bro" out.

[Breakbeat]

OP is an angry human being, displaying antisocial behavior. If it manifests itself in this way in video games, and on discussion boards, it's a matter of time before it starts manifesting itself in real life, if it already hasn't.

Looking at it from an objective point of view, OP needs mental health help. For a human living in our society to think it is OK to publicly declare their support for rape and white supremacy, is sick.

I don't know if we have the means to help people who act this way; this goes beyond depression and anxiety and other common mental health problems. There is hate present here, and for hate to be present and that apparent is quite indicative of someone in pain, or angst, that needs help.

If we do have the means, I hope OP gets the help they need. If they continue like this, it's only going to be to a terrible end.

[Wavaryen]

OP is an angry human being, displaying antisocial behavior. If it manifests itself in this way in video games, and on discussion boards, it's a matter of time before it starts manifesting itself in real life, if it already hasn't.

Looking at it from an objective point of view, OP needs mental health help. For a human living in our society to think it is OK to publicly declare their support for rape and white supremacy, is sick.

I don't know if we have the means to help people who act this way; this goes beyond depression and anxiety and other common mental health problems. There is hate present here, and for hate to be present and that apparent is quite indicative of someone in pain, or angst, that needs help.

If we do have the means, I hope OP gets the help they need. If they continue like this, it's only going to be to a terrible end.

I would not go that far. Like, sure he is a troll, but this forum community is very much easily trolled. So he is just doing what is fun for him. Online is a pretty good stress relief ticking people off by being dumb or whatever. People like this, are normal in mmorpg community. So I don't really think too deeply on him being anti social and all that. He just enjoys irking people online, because to him it is not that big of a deal.

[Vahlnir]

I would not go that far. Like, sure he is a troll, but this forum community is very much easily trolled. So he is just doing what is fun for him. Online is a pretty good stress relief ticking people off by being dumb or whatever. People like this, are normal in mmorpg community. So I don't really think too deeply on him being anti social and all that. He just enjoys irking people online, because to him it is not that big of a deal.

Well, I think it's saying something when even the regular trollers on these forums don't cross the lines the OP has. To their credit, they clearly possess something resembling a moral compass.

[Breakbeat]

I have to disagree; someone taking pleasure out of antisocial behavior isn't just "trolling". This goes beyond your average troll. This is a person who spends a significant amount of time trying to generate ire in the people around him. The ire is a fuel, for more antisocial behavior.

Normal, relatively-well-adjusted humans don't sit down at their computers for the sole purpose of shocking people, to this extent. If your child, spouse or family member were behaving like this, you wouldn't just chalk it up to trolling. At least I seriously hope you wouldn't.

One day, pissing people off online might just not feed the urge.

This isn't healthy behavior... like, objectively, it isn't healthy. I cannot imagine a therapist looking at the types of things OP has said, and just responding with, "don't worry, it's just trolling." There's a pain at the center of this. It should be dealt with. OP might be a person suffering some kind of abuse; gaining pleasure (and thereby numbing their own pain) by making others feel bad.

I'm 46 and speaking from not only a lifetime of experience dealing with mental health issues, but thousands and thousands of hours communicating with other people "out there on the internet". I get trolling. I get, "yeah, well you're stupid!" I get Godwinning. This is beyond that.

[Wavaryen]

Well, I think it's saying something when even the regular trollers on these forums don't cross the lines the OP has. To their credit, they clearly possess something resembling a moral compass.

I think he just does not care about his account. Unlike some of our other trolls who still enjoys the game.

I have to disagree; someone taking pleasure out of antisocial behavior isn't just "trolling". This goes beyond your average troll. This is a person who spends a significant amount of time trying to generate ire in the people around him. The ire is a fuel, for more antisocial behavior.

Normal, relatively-well-adjusted humans don't sit down at their computers for the sole purpose of shocking people, to this extent. If your child, spouse or family member were behaving like this, you wouldn't just chalk it up to trolling. At least I seriously hope you wouldn't.

One day, pissing people off online might just not feed the urge.

This isn't healthy behavior... like, objectively, it isn't healthy. I cannot imagine a therapist looking at the types of things OP has said, and just responding with, "don't worry, it's just trolling." There's a pain at the center of this. It should be dealt with. OP might be a person suffering some kind of abuse; gaining pleasure (and thereby numbing their own pain) by making others feel bad.

I'm 46 and speaking from not only a lifetime of experience dealing with mental health issues, but thousands and thousands of hours communicating with other people "out there on the internet". I get trolling. I get, "yeah, well you're stupid!" I get Godwinning. This is beyond that.

Being disable, I think about this a ton. I got wayyy to much free time. And I'm not going to say my two cents is right. This is what I think it is.


Misery loves company. It is just that simple. After watching social media, and thinking about Shadowbane, UO and other mmorpgs I played over the years. MMO players had a hint of anti social elements to them. Using the world to escape in, and just have fun. Trolling each other and getting a rise out of people. At first I think it was just silly as people get so upset over the game. As years passed, the trolling has got worse through social media, and just gaming overall. Counter-Strike use to have a clan call Myg0t that was all about getting a rise out of people for laughs. They would use cheats and anything they could. That was not the normal, and now it would be.

To me I think as a society the more miserable we are, the more people use online as a way to destress and make others upset. It is sad, and I could very well be wrong.

[Awha]

I have to disagree; someone taking pleasure out of antisocial behavior isn't just "trolling". This goes beyond your average troll. This is a person who spends a significant amount of time trying to generate ire in the people around him. The ire is a fuel, for more antisocial behavior.

Normal, relatively-well-adjusted humans don't sit down at their computers for the sole purpose of shocking people, to this extent. If your child, spouse or family member were behaving like this, you wouldn't just chalk it up to trolling. At least I seriously hope you wouldn't.

One day, pissing people off online might just not feed the urge.

This isn't healthy behavior... like, objectively, it isn't healthy. I cannot imagine a therapist looking at the types of things OP has said, and just responding with, "don't worry, it's just trolling." There's a pain at the center of this. It should be dealt with. OP might be a person suffering some kind of abuse; gaining pleasure (and thereby numbing their own pain) by making others feel bad.

I'm 46 and speaking from not only a lifetime of experience dealing with mental health issues, but thousands and thousands of hours communicating with other people "out there on the internet". I get trolling. I get, "yeah, well you're stupid!" I get Godwinning. This is beyond that.

Hey taking pleasure in anti social behavior not inherently wrong, intrusive, and or harming. Context is important at times at the core sure it may go against social norms but that in itself I do not think is enough to chalk it up to having mental health issues. By in large it just could be that unfortunately this behavior is normalized taking advantage of those in a weaker position using one's authority and power to get ahead in life or upon something one wants.

This behavior is a product of pervious generations failures to notice the problem or speak out due to whatever reason.

I do not think the OP is acting this way because they miserable or want to glorify such treatment of women I generally get the vibe that by in large they either feel such use or power is normal and or also simply finds getting a strong reaction out of people is funny. I do not get the vibe the OP cares enough about the inherent feelings or issue to want company for his or her misery. Problem just someone that makes light of real world situations for humor.

Many people have done it but when they were younger I just think as time goes on people refuse to grow up and keep that juvenile behavior and humor later in life. I mean I am sure many of us use to have character names, passwords, gamer tags that we were not proud of.

[Breakbeat]

I do not, you are mistaken. I'm sorry I hit close to home on your issues. There is help if you are being or were abused or mistreated. But whatever hate or pain you feel... stop perpetuating it. Take some responsibility and deal with it in your head, or with assistance. If you're gonna be so macho, what with the way you'd treat women and such, then certainly you're man enough to own your own pain.

Own it. Deal with it. Go confess to a therapist that you condone the activities you condone.

If you don't really condone them, and you've just been trying to be edgy, go anyway. You're idea of comedy is way off, to the point of being sociopathic.