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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeJeebus View Post
    I don't even know what exactly I did except maybe yelling at people for not following raid mechanics
    you first posted this...

    which I would consider general verbal abuse .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    you first posted this...

    which I would consider general verbal abuse .
    Lol

    /10lalas
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    why do I feel like this isn't real?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    you first posted this...

    which I would consider general verbal abuse .
    When are players coming here from WoW going to listen to us when we tell the harassment policy at FF14 is enforced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    When are players coming here from WoW going to listen to us when we tell the harassment policy at FF14 is enforced.
    it may take a bit since they are used to GM's doing little except maybe joining in on the harassment. not saying they do, but lets face it, wouldnt be a shock if they did either
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    it may take a bit since they are used to GM's doing little except maybe joining in on the harassment. not saying they do, but lets face it, wouldnt be a shock if they did either
    WoW's GM problem isn't that the GMs are toxic or lazy it's that they don't exist.

    A lot of the more community management type positions were let go a long time ago.

    WoW didn't become more toxic as a result, really. I don't think the playerbase is crueler because of it...

    But you sure do see a lot of people trying to be edgy in how they name their guilds and characters now. IDK how many characters named after Covid I saw last year... At least a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayuhra View Post
    WoW's GM problem isn't that the GMs are toxic or lazy it's that they don't exist.

    A lot of the more community management type positions were let go a long time ago.

    WoW didn't become more toxic as a result, really. I don't think the playerbase is crueler because of it...

    But you sure do see a lot of people trying to be edgy in how they name their guilds and characters now. IDK how many characters named after Covid I saw last year... At least a lot.
    well, main difference here is, there are GM's and they do enforce the rules.

    sure, going from the wild west into a city might be a bit jarring, but doesnt mean you dont have to follow the rules
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    I recommend changing the behaviors that got you in trouble in the first place because punishments in this game are cumulative.
    I would have been happy to change my behavior had I been told to sooner instead of just been given a 20 day ban for my first offense. I have 0 issues with being punished, I know I did wrong. My issue is the punishment severity given context to the situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeJeebus View Post
    I would have been happy to change my behavior had I been told to sooner instead of just been given a 20 day ban for my first offense. I have 0 issues with being punished, I know I did wrong. My issue is the punishment severity given context to the situation.
    That's unfortunately not how rulebreaking works here. Your personal lament being not unique but unlikely to change how it's handled.

    If you do things like making your FC name something mildly offensive (was it really in any kind of good taste?) and possibly "yelling" at people all at the same time.. this is what happens.

    It sucks for you, but arguing here, or with the GM's is unlikely to change anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreeJeebus View Post
    Telling people to learn the game isn't rude. And again. My issue isn't with being punished. My issue is the severity of the punishment. I would have been fine with a 3-5 day ban or something along those lines.
    Rude is subjective. If people reported you and it stuck as a strike.. it must have "seemed" rude (honestly we don't know if this was the case so this is still mainly theoretical), by all means log your complaint of the punishment being too harsh for a first infraction but as I said before.. probably isn't going to change anything.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    I recommend changing the behaviors that got you in trouble in the first place because punishments in this game are cumulative.
    Telling people to learn the game isn't rude. And again. My issue isn't with being punished. My issue is the severity of the punishment. I would have been fine with a 3-5 day ban or something along those lines.
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