Think we are about to see another wave.

[Xathyr]

You know, after thinking about it for a while, although i understand that boycotting Blizzard will mostly harm workers that have nothing to do with all of this shit, i somehow feel like, if no convincing response or actions are taken by Blizzard itself i think we should definitely try to cancel them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzdyL_T-TSk

[Vipes]

Being hyper-focused on short-term profits is not a viable business strategy.

Here's the thing, the psychology behind those purchases are to show them off, specifically to show them off to the have-nots. The problem is the non-whale audience is bleeding out hard. It's not all that fun showing off to another whale so the whales eventually get bored and quit. While things look rosy now the cash shop revenue over the next few quarters is going to tank hard as the whales abandon ship.

I don’t know about you, but I don’t buy things to show off. I didn’t buy Cloud’s bike to rub it in F2Ps or people who don’t buy mounts. I bought Cloud’s bike because I love the mount. I didn’t buy the Red Shift power armor skin in Fallout 76 to show it off to people who don’t buy atoms. I bought it because it looks so much like a Zaku and I’m a Gundam fan.

Maybe I just don’t understand this concept.

[Y2K21]

As much as I like FF14 community to grow and prosper, I think people going out of their way to advertise FF14 during this controversy where people have allegedly died and with large amounts of alleged stories of sexual harassment -- it reeks of tone-deafness and I would expect better out of a more welcoming community than grandstanding of real trauma and tragedy to dab on ABK.

[Shinxwildflower]

As much as I like FF14 community to grow and prosper, I think people going out of their way to advertise FF14 during this controversy where people have allegedly died and with large amounts of alleged stories of sexual harassment -- it reeks of tone-deafness and I would expect better out of a more welcoming community than grandstanding of real trauma and tragedy to dab on ABK.

To jump off this, FF posters in other places are...come off as bit of jerk in places. Basically soap boxing the game upon whatever event is going on, all while giving back-handed compliments in regards to whatever platform they're on. So much so, it kind of making this place look a bit stuck up from the outsider point of view.

[KitKatnip]

This is just a big mess all around. I feel bad for players who really enjoy playing Blizzard games and have for years. I also feel bad for Blizzard employees that had nothing to do with this. It must feel horrible to work for them right about now.

I'm glad to see FFXIV growing but I just wish it was for a different reason.

Maybe the afk timer will help with the server congestion. We'll know it's bad if they sell out of digital copies again.

[Elissar]

An annoying fact: FFXIV had many issues during his launch in Europe and North America in 2013. It's 2021 and we will face the same issue...

Some links
https://gotgame.com/2013/09/04/ffxiv...-buy-the-game/
https://www.finalfantasyunion.com/ne...sates-players/
http://ffxivrealm.com/threads/server-problems.2258/

[DPZ2]

To be clear, "frat boy culture" is not a term I expect to find in the legal documents presented to the court, any more than I expect condemnation of the entire 9500+ employee workforce.

I expect a ruling with a fine and a general hand-waving from authorities, and a 'change' in corporate policies once that is done.

Twitter, on the other hand, looks like it might just want to 'kill the company' to prove it can do so, despite the havoc that might ensue. Then again, the age of Electronic Warriors (for ill or for good) is moving along just fine without my help.

[Kolsykol]

I honestly don't think this will have much of an effect.
The truth is that most people either don't care or won't even hear about it ( the second is the most common ).

Okay so to say that people don't care is a bit unfair, but they don't care enough to quit playing for some kind of a moral reason.

Apparently it was already in Blizzard before their acquisition, which puts the "Old guard" that have been making new indie studios under the spotlight too.

This is what makes it even more disappointing to me.
I can't remember a time when I didn't play Blizzard games, I grew up with them.

So to think of how much money I spent on them and supported them with... And what high regard I held them in.
It's disappointing on a whole other level.

To be clear, "frat boy culture" is not a term I expect to find in the legal documents presented to the court, any more than I expect condemnation of the entire 9500+ employee workforce.

I expect a ruling with a fine and a general hand-waving from authorities, and a 'change' in corporate policies once that is done.

Twitter, on the other hand, looks like it might just want to 'kill the company' to prove it can do so, despite the havoc that might ensue. Then again, the age of Electronic Warriors (for ill or for good) is moving along just fine without my help.

Well this is another thing too.
People love to be mad on Twitter, there are some things that I think people are only now bringing up because they can circlejerk about it and be mad about it.
Like that clip from the 2010 QnA, I do agree that they handled the question poorly but lets be real here people are severely overexaggerating their anger about it and are being captain hindsight about it.

One of the devs that were on the panel and now works at Riot but didn't say anything kinda explained it from his pov too.
They couldn't even see the people from that distance so he couldn't see how she was reacting to it and if he had then he probably would've said something, and I think JAB would've too tbh.
And Blizzard do expect people at QnA's to do '' gotcha '' questions so that's how they actually approached it and not as genuine.
That's also why you got things like '' don't you guys have phones? '', and most people ask questions like '' so when will you buff my class? '' etc.
Especially when you take into consideration HOW she asked her question, the actual context and everything put together makes it not this horrifying event imo.

Again they handled the question poorly, but at the same time I think that the extent to which people are getting mad about it now is because it's another thing to be mad about.
And that's also why people are bringing it up and getting mad about it now too.

Overall point being, Twitter is mad but long-term it doesn't matter.
And we have so many other cases to point to.
I am not saying that it's right and that it shouldn't matter, because these allegations are really messed up and I feel truly disgusted by them.
But at the same time people need to understand that the people who exist online on forums and on Twitter etc are an extremely tiny minority.

[SirCadogan]

Wow developers have posted that development for WOW is halted until further notice. I predicted this on the wow forums and got ridiculed badly for it. I feel vindicated but sad too. Despite the company issues the game was good.

That said, I’d expect this fall to see huge numbers of players looking for a game to play, and with EW coming out the hold outs will probably make their way to FF.

[ItMe]

Wow developers have posted that development for WOW is halted until further notice.

Really?
I haven't heard about this and I can't google anything up about it.
Can you provide a link please?