Serious note -Why so many toxic players lately?

[Shinxwildflower]

For those coming directly from WoW, it is probably liberating to experience an MMO that doesn't make you feel like you have a second job.

Now it's more schoolwork because you have to sit through endless story after story via each patch update. We came from 2nd job to back to school.

[Vahlnir]

Now it's more schoolwork because you have to sit through endless story after story via each patch update. We came from 2nd job to back to school.

Story? In a heavily story based MMO?

[Shinxwildflower]

Story? In a heavily story based MMO?

Sorry, can't hear you with Mr. Edgly Edgelord over here going on about how evil he is as we stand here watch doing nothing to stop him for the 10th time.

[Xathyr]

Are they? Because I've been playing the game for a month now, and the most "toxic" behavior I've witnessed is people simply remaining silent during a dungeon/trial/raid.

Honestly if we had something to complain about this game, the community would be far below the main problem.

Been finding nothing but mostly wholesome/helpful people so far, so, yeah, love you guys

[Alxyzntlct]

Story? In a heavily story based MMO?

Ha! I know, right? I grew up playing the FF games (since back to the 1st), and one of the things I’ve loved about the entire series is the amazing stories.

I personally have been LOVING the stories in FFXIV so far, and am taking my sweet time playing through the game so that I can even enjoy the side stories that flesh out the main story because I’m enjoying it so much.

I hope SE continues this fantastic trend of incredible storytelling!!!

[Roeshel]

Hey when I am healing I want the tank to eat damage at 80 it gives me something to do. :P

This is how I thought at first as well. But I eventually adjusted to what the game is expecting me to do - spam gcd damage spells. I would cast a cure II for someone who is apologetic and visibly lagging but not for a mentor. No way.

acting with hostility only fuels the fire and makes you no better because now you are both toxic.

Hostility is not inherently bad btw. It is an essential part of a full-filling life. The very things you consist of are constantly being hostile towards foreign objects and cells who deviate from following the rules within your body. Trying to live without being hostile is a fallacy. Life is not about obtaining absolute peace. When you are dead you will have plenty of it. So people who are pretending to be okay with things when they are not really okay with things are trying to be dead while they are still alive. Someone ignoring me in a dungeon affects me, bad gameplay affects me, living things react to disturbances, dead things are okay with everything.

[Ashliet]

The only toxic thing I have seen lately is a hundred people trying to deafen and blind you while you try to accept the Jumping Puzzle quest at the golden saucer.

[Sotaris]

Always was, OP. It wasn't as much in our faces until recently.

[Snorky]

Perspective, that is the word. Given the medium in which we communicate in game mostly it is hard. We don't have those visual cues to tell us what is going on with the other person we are trying to communicate with. Patience is what we all need. Maybe the person had something going on in the background that drew their attention. We just don't know. I try to answer people in chat sometimes I ignore the chat because the most recent game I came from chat was rather rude mostly (ESO) yes it's a plague there too. Try and have patience and understanding, if someone is rude ignore them. Don't let these things stress you, people will always be people. I hope if I ever appear rude to someone they would say hey why don't you answer me? I would apologize and try to read the chat. Just know we never know what is going on in the background. Maybe someone's kid or dog knocked over something, or someone has distracted that person. We just don't know. I would rather give the benefit of the doubt than think badly until it's proven the person is being a butthole.

[rachystar14]

Are they? Because I've been playing the game for a month now, and the most "toxic" behavior I've witnessed is people simply remaining silent during a dungeon/trial/raid.

Honestly if we had something to complain about this game, the community would be far below the main problem.

Been finding nothing but mostly wholesome/helpful people so far, so, yeah, love you guys

At high ilevel players are more particular but rd really just about understanding battles. If you want to be a farmer you really need to know the boss by memory, where you stand and what combos to use. I find that some people get frustrated when others simply die, which in my opinion is some kind of mental toxicity. Making mistakes is fine, but when you take it out on other players it’s discouraging. And actually, a lot of higher level players know this and it’s sad that they develop a false elitist attitude. Everyone is learning here, since it’s such a big game. I think the vastness encourages players to return back, but when your groups continually end on sour notes it begs the question of worth. I think the quality of game content outweighs the negativity, but the effort to be a team by all players will always pose as a difficulty. Perhaps it’s the game design itself, a lot of people blame pf. I don’t think many people who can teach are willing to help starting out players - this could be another part of why the game is seen as toxic. But I’ve mostly tried to figure out everything by myself. It definitely comes from someone thinking they know more than you on a game that’s really pretty much free roaming.