Serious note -Why so many toxic players lately?

[TheRealQuah]

OP's posts in this thread are a major self report.

If in a day you meet one toxic player, they are probably toxic.
If you meets lots of toxic players, it's likely you are the toxic one.

[Xathyr]

Are they? Because I've been playing the game for a month now, and the most "toxic" behavior I've witnessed is people simply remaining silent during a dungeon/trial/raid.

Honestly if we had something to complain about this game, the community would be far below the main problem.

Been finding nothing but mostly wholesome/helpful people so far, so, yeah, love you guys

[Alxyzntlct]

Story? In a heavily story based MMO?

Ha! I know, right? I grew up playing the FF games (since back to the 1st), and one of the things I’ve loved about the entire series is the amazing stories.

I personally have been LOVING the stories in FFXIV so far, and am taking my sweet time playing through the game so that I can even enjoy the side stories that flesh out the main story because I’m enjoying it so much.

I hope SE continues this fantastic trend of incredible storytelling!!!

[Ashliet]

The only toxic thing I have seen lately is a hundred people trying to deafen and blind you while you try to accept the Jumping Puzzle quest at the golden saucer.

[Sotaris]

Always was, OP. It wasn't as much in our faces until recently.

[Snorky]

Perspective, that is the word. Given the medium in which we communicate in game mostly it is hard. We don't have those visual cues to tell us what is going on with the other person we are trying to communicate with. Patience is what we all need. Maybe the person had something going on in the background that drew their attention. We just don't know. I try to answer people in chat sometimes I ignore the chat because the most recent game I came from chat was rather rude mostly (ESO) yes it's a plague there too. Try and have patience and understanding, if someone is rude ignore them. Don't let these things stress you, people will always be people. I hope if I ever appear rude to someone they would say hey why don't you answer me? I would apologize and try to read the chat. Just know we never know what is going on in the background. Maybe someone's kid or dog knocked over something, or someone has distracted that person. We just don't know. I would rather give the benefit of the doubt than think badly until it's proven the person is being a butthole.

[rachystar14]

Are they? Because I've been playing the game for a month now, and the most "toxic" behavior I've witnessed is people simply remaining silent during a dungeon/trial/raid.

Honestly if we had something to complain about this game, the community would be far below the main problem.

Been finding nothing but mostly wholesome/helpful people so far, so, yeah, love you guys

At high ilevel players are more particular but rd really just about understanding battles. If you want to be a farmer you really need to know the boss by memory, where you stand and what combos to use. I find that some people get frustrated when others simply die, which in my opinion is some kind of mental toxicity. Making mistakes is fine, but when you take it out on other players it’s discouraging. And actually, a lot of higher level players know this and it’s sad that they develop a false elitist attitude. Everyone is learning here, since it’s such a big game. I think the vastness encourages players to return back, but when your groups continually end on sour notes it begs the question of worth. I think the quality of game content outweighs the negativity, but the effort to be a team by all players will always pose as a difficulty. Perhaps it’s the game design itself, a lot of people blame pf. I don’t think many people who can teach are willing to help starting out players - this could be another part of why the game is seen as toxic. But I’ve mostly tried to figure out everything by myself. It definitely comes from someone thinking they know more than you on a game that’s really pretty much free roaming.

[Vahlnir]

If you want to be a farmer you really need to know the boss by memory, where you stand and what combos to use. I find that some people get frustrated when others simply die, which in my opinion is some kind of mental toxicity. Making mistakes is fine, but when you take it out on other players it’s discouraging.

I'd say for a lot of content, even most Extremes, a death or two is not going to make or break a clear. Then there's things like Cloud Deck Ex where even one mistake can cost the group dearly. Personally, I don't really get mad when people die, unless I'm in a farm party. Making a mistake is normal for anyone. Making the same mistakes repeatedly and messing up what's supposed to be a farm though...that grinds my gears. But even then I don't actually say anything. "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" and such. But yeah, it has to be a special set of circumstances for me to get mad at other players. I just appear to be the strong, silent type when it does happen.

[MiniTofu]

They didn't respond at all, so I said, "ok, I guess you don't speak English or chose to ignore me."

They are probably on PS4/PS5 who don't have a keyboard to type?


Been playing since 2014, I only experience real toxic player who actually left the party or raid due to impatient with new players. That only occurred like 5 times since 2014 at playing daily.


I'm a battle mentor, you have to have way with words not to make other feel oppressed to do. There is a different telling and advising someone for doing something wrong.


I usually Show and Tell style, ie. See that boss cast - that needs to interrupt if have the ability. If see purple mark, means you need to stay away from others.


You don't say: "Asmon, you have purple over your head - you should have moved out of the party!"

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

They are probably on PS4/PS5 who don't have a keyboard to type?


Been playing since 2014, I only experience real toxic player who actually left the party or raid due to impatient with new players. That only occurred like 5 times since 2014 at playing daily.


I'm a battle mentor, you have to have way with words not to make other feel oppressed to do. There is a different telling and advising someone for doing something wrong.


I usually Show and Tell style, ie. See that boss cast - that needs to interrupt if have the ability. If see purple mark, means you need to stay away from others.


You don't say: "Asmon, you have purple over your head - you should have moved out of the party!"

But the purple mark in world of darkness is a stack mechanic!

(2nd boss)