Serious note -Why so many toxic players lately?

[MrMagic]

Jesus...



Something is very messed up with you if you honestly think that Dragonblanco conducted themselves in a toxic manner. There is no arguing about it or discussing why OP was not toxic. If you believe that they were toxic then intelligent discussions are not really your thing.

Get it right. I don't blame the other player for thinking the OP was being passive agressive by how they phrased their requests. It was an understandable misunderstanding.

[Vahlnir]

Get it right. I don't blame the other player for thinking the OP was being passive agressive by how they phrased their requests. It was an understandable misunderstanding.

Yep. However, I did not acknowledge this event in particular. I largely went by the thread title. More often than not, anyone creating a thread like this saying "why is everyone so dang toxic all of a sudden?!" often has some not so carefully hidden skeletons in their closets, often trying to cover up their own behavior which is similar to what they are accusing others of. It comes to the surface very quickly. I've been around the block more than a few times. I know how this works. lol

[Shinxwildflower]

Isn't the OP allowed to have a bad reaction after being ignored? I have kicked and would kick people who are playing bad and refusing to communicate. I am your party member, you treat me as if I don't exist. Okay, then you don't exist as well, begone from the party.

Just to play advocate;

Ain't anyone else entitled to express how they felt about the OP's tone? Ain't they entitled to point out that two wrongs don't make a right? Why would anyone have to blindly agree with the given OP about something? Can't they disagree, even if it's a bit harsh? Wouldn't it be reasonable to expect when one make blanket statements or comes off with a tone with a chip on their shoulder that folks ain't going to like them?

[Pirana1]

Yep. However, I did not acknowledge this event in particular. I largely went by the thread title. More often than not, anyone creating a thread like this saying "why is everyone so dang toxic all of a sudden?!" often has some not so carefully hidden skeletons in their closets, often trying to cover up their own behavior which is similar to what they are accusing others of. It comes to the surface very quickly. I've been around the block more than a few times. I know how this works. lol

Been around that block too many times myself. You can spot them a mile away. For anyone interested, check the post history and you will see a common theme throughout most threads created. You cannot miss it.

[Tux13s]

I’ve had someone tell me something like that on chat “I don’t care if you don’t speak proper english, just do your job” I was a new player and thought that was very rude. That person harassed me through the whole raid but thanks to the more experienced players they kicked him out of the group on our last boss. It all depends on how you express yourself. Most players are nice and will stick for those being harassed or mistreated.

[LisSquid]

they kicked him out of the group on our last boss.

I'm sorry you had such an experience. Yet another good use of the kick function: poetic justice.

[Mika_Zahard]

Is Dragonblanco the new Titanmen alt? This honestly feels like another bait thread that'll end up in a war between "you don't pay my sub" types and "you should have stop licking paint" types.

lol this is precisely what i was thinking about.

[Vahlnir]

lol this is precisely what i was thinking about.

Considering they abandoned the thread and haven't been back since I'm a little suspicious myself.

[Roeshel]

Get it right. I don't blame the other player for thinking the OP was being passive agressive by how they phrased their requests. It was an understandable misunderstanding.

Yes, you don't blame the other player because you empathize with them, because you have probably done a similar thing in the past and might do it again.

"You literally caused someone to be salty", the OP is not their mother and what they said is perfectly fine if the person they were talking to is not suffering from insecurities. And that DNC suffering from insecurities is not the OP's fault yet people here blame them for not taking into account that the person they might be talking to is a complete snowflake.

For all I know I can tell you straight up that you are bad and not even bother with giving you advice on how to play your role unless you ask for it and even kick you if I get a snarky remark from you when you don't know the basics of your class. Happened with a couple of tanks. And here, the OP who is trying to initiate a normal discussion is being labeled as toxic by the same breed of DPS players they encountered in DF. Truly disgusting that you are of a great multitude.

[Roeshel]

Just to play advocate;

Ain't anyone else entitled to express how they felt about the OP's tone? Ain't they entitled to point out that two wrongs don't make a right? Why would anyone have to blindly agree with the given OP about something? Can't they disagree, even if it's a bit harsh?

I know that the OP is allowed to do a lot more than just being upset that they got ignored. Kick them or leave yourself. Don't waste your time with garbages. Say all you want to say and move on.

Two wrongs make a right in some cases btw. It is wrong to have cancer but at the same, it is wrong to cut open a human body which is what is happening during surgery.

Sure you can disagree all you want and falsely accuse them of being a troll and toxic. People are allowed to be wrong. People are generally wrong about lots of stuff. But no, their actions are not reasonable.

Wouldn't it be reasonable to expect when one make blanket statements or comes off with a tone with a chip on their shoulder that folks ain't going to like them?

Reason or "reasonable" is not some shared warped perception of the masses. Reason is created from logical thinking which many people fail to do with consistency. Unless someone has been part of the FFXIV forums for a while they will see that a lot of these responses are not in any way reasonable but when you get to know the community for a while you will understand that this is their understanding of "reasonable" which is baffling to anyone still sound of mind.

Considering they abandoned the thread and haven't been back since I'm a little suspicious myself.

Do you really expect people to continue wasting their time with the forum after seeing how most people reply? Just imagine for one second that the OP is actually being genuine. What reason do they have to continue reading BS page after page?