Serious note -Why so many toxic players lately?

[Roeshel]

I am literally holding myself back from accusing ALL the new people turning up on the forums who are necro-ing and posting hot-button topics.. because of the exact same reason we might be encountering more "rude" players..

There's a whole lot of new people incoming and that will mean even here =]

It's definitely a sad thing that one user is making us doubt anyone who isn't a "regular" but Dragonblanco here does not fit the pattern... and yeah.. I did check, I'll admit. Not just the one 80 war and magic class with 80 all crafters and the one man FC.

But you did say I was a troll on my first thread.

[Krotoan]

But you did say I was a troll on my first thread.

And you acted/sounded like one and we weren't in the middle of a particularly large surge in players.

Can I not change habits or assessments due to changing conditions?

Would you like me to not notice that not only have the servers got players but there has been a very large increase in the posting people here as well?


Still not convinced you're not since this is your only contribution to this thread. I'm sure you're not a titanmen alt at least though.

[Roeshel]

And you acted/sounded like one and we weren't in the middle of a particularly large surge in players.

Can I not change habits or assessments due to changing conditions?

Would you like me to not notice that not only have the servers got players but there has been a very large increase in the posting people here as well?


Still not convinced you're not since this is your only contribution to this thread. I'm sure you're not a titanmen alt at least though.

Wow. Talk about being arrogant.

The great contribution to the thread:
Hello OP o/
I see you are from Exodus, maybe because you are in NA servers you are encountering more toxic players. I am from the EU and I haven't noticed a significant change. You can still run across some but it has always been like that.

Now, to get to the real point of my post.
Krotoan, it's okay to admit you made a mistake but I guess since you are too old and old people don't like admitting they were wrong you won't do that. I understand.

[Krotoan]

Wow. Talk about being arrogant.

The great contribution to the thread:
Hello OP o/
I see you are from Exodus, maybe because you are in NA servers you are encounter more toxic players. I am from the EU and I haven't noticed a significant change. You can still run across some but it has always been like that.

Now, to get to the real point of my post.
Krotoan, it's okay to admit you made a mistake but I guess since you are too old and old people don't like admitting they were wrong you won't do that. I understand.

I'm completely capable of admitting mistakes, I was in fact saying that I'm still on the fence as to whether you're contributory or an instigator.. but considering your response to a completely warranted observation that your ONLY contribution to this thread was to go "HAY REMEMBER WHEN YOU SAID I WAS A TROLL HOWBOUT THAT?!?!"..

Leaning towards instigator.

so you ARE here just to insult me. That is troll behavior indeed. Noticing you think the old thing is an insult though. That is something young people fear so it's to be expected.

Not changing my perceptions any here.

[Roeshel]

Keep mincing words and proving my original assessment correct. I don't think you're doing this for any sort of constructive dialogue. My initial perception was pretty spot on and all you're doing is providing more and more evidence to support it.
The fact remains you self admittedly came into this discussion looking to get a response from me and not to contribute to the discussion.

I don't care what you call me: Old or Arrogant. I'm not here so people can like me or to farm favor.

I came into the discussion proving you wrong. Whether you view it as constructive or not is not my concern.

I did the same with another guy who diagnosed me with an existential crisis of control on my first thread. On another thread, he said he is working in the psych field to prove his point on an argument that was barely touching the main topic. And then I reminded him that he is a clown.

It is similar to the post I initially replied to. It actually is not connected with the topic at all. The one who started derailing from the thread discussion is you and I continued it.

I am literally holding myself back from accusing ALL the new people turning up on the forums who are necro-ing and posting hot-button topics.. because of the exact same reason we might be encountering more "rude" players..

There's a whole lot of new people incoming and that will mean even here =]

It's definitely a sad thing that one user is making us doubt anyone who isn't a "regular" but Dragonblanco here does not fit the pattern... and yeah.. I did check, I'll admit. Not just the one 80 war and magic class with 80 all crafters and the one man FC.

Nobody asked you if you are holding from accusing all new posters of being Titanmen alt. You didn't hold when I started posting here and I will point that out so that eventually if someone else who is new gets called out for being titanman alt they would know that it's not really their fault and that FFXIV's forum has some special breed of crazy lunatics.

[Krotoan]

I came into the discussion proving you wrong. Whether you view it as constructive or not is not my concern.

Proving me wrong about what? That I was not holding myself back at the time? I am not at all times doing exactly what I say I'm doing forever and always in the past. Do you?

I did the same with another guy who diagnosed me with an existential crisis of control on my first thread. On another thread, he said he is working in the psych field to prove his point on an argument that was barely touching the main topic. And then I reminded him that he is a clown.

Great, an aspiring forum truth moderator. Good luck with that. I hope your little gotchas fulfill you.

It is similar to the post I initially replied to. It actually is not connected with the topic at all. The one who started derailing from the thread discussion is you and I continued it.

You cut in with an irrelevant piece of information and attempted a gotcha. Don't try to deflect. You then revealed that the REAL reason you were here was to level accusatory and vindictive dredging of past posts up by posting condescending drivel.

Nobody asked you if you are holding from accusing all new posters of being Titanmen alt. You didn't hold when I started posting here and I will point that out so that eventually if someone else who is new gets called out for being titanman alt they would know that it's not really their fault and that FFXIV's forum has some special breed of crazy lunatics.

Someone mentioned they thought it was possibly one, I then contributed that I was doing my best to not assume that immediately. So while I did accuse you of being a troll.. I honestly don't remember if I accused you of being a troll alt.. there was no reason at the time to give extra leniency because of extra players incoming.. . But your particular way of "contributing" here is reminding me of what the post I likely replied to was like.


I didn't hold when you started posting here and now you want me to ask forgiveness or something? I had no reason to hold back judgment as I've stated several times. The ratio of troll to actual posters was quite high, although I'll say at the moment this week it's been pretty low unless ALL these new people are troll alts. The only suspicious activity I've seen is from a couple necro-post dredging no-lifes and some questionably contrarian newbies.

EDIT:
Ahh.. here we go:
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...hem-afterwards


So I posted MORE THAN TWO MONTHS AGO:

You're planning to use parsing.. a known "don't ask don't tell" issue with SE, to report someone.


Please go ahead.


This new crop of trolls, playing the "by the book not by the spirit" rules sticklers is getting old.

Because not only were you posting about something with a seeming familiarity about a known hot button topic, but were doing it right in the middle of a rash of other trolls posting about parsing and getting people kicked by the letter of the law but not the spirit.

I could have been nicer. Yes. But I still am not beholden to the claim more than two months later that I am holding back currently against judging new entries because of the new influx of players being a recent occurrence.

You seemed a troll because you picked a lot of trollish positions and arguments. You continue to be obstinate and trying to find something to accuse me of or to find a failing in.



Troll or not, you aren't particularly someone I'd recommend discussing anything with. Quite vindictive and petty.

[Roeshel]

So I posted MORE THAN TWO MONTHS AGO:

Are two months considered that long ago? It's only time passing, it would still be the same thing if it happened yesterday. There has always been a constant influx of new players you just couldn't notice it.

Troll or not, you aren't particularly someone I'd recommend discussing anything with. Quite vindictive and petty.

Yes, I am when I decide to be, towards to people who deserve excessive vindictive criticism from me. And you are one of those. Though I wouldn't say that vindictive is the right word here. I interact with different people differently, in the way I feel like it.

And btw, people who are following someone else's recommendation for whom to have discussions with and with whom you shouldn't, are not really smart. You worded your sentence in a negative way, am I supposed to feel bad about not getting Krotoan's recommendations? I don't understand why?