Quinn hating on the game.

[lezard21]

He's still most popular person on youtube though raking in over tens of millions a year

No, buy you see, the millionaire guy lost one contract that didn't impact him at all in the long run while continuing to make millions through other venues.

Can we get a pleb "GOTTEM!" in chat?

[Kaurhz]

No, buy you see, the millionaire guy lost one contract that didn't impact him at all in the long run while continuing to make millions through other venues.

Can we get a pleb "GOTTEM!" in chat?

If I'm interpreting this correctly.

Sure, but the simple fact of the matter his bad publicity at the time lost him a contract, as it has done with other social media stars their brand deals or partnerships. The point isn't that "Can just make more money lul" - It was a counterpoint to "No such thing as bad publicity" which relies on the simple fact that all attention in the media will further the cause or agenda even if said attention paints them in a bad light. Cancel culture has largely encouraged accountability for what you say.

Or are you going to imply to me that PewDiePie being mentioned across the media as a result of his antisemitic comments and thusly losing his contract helped to forward an agenda or cause? Fact of the matter remains he would have been better off without the publicity. alike many people, hence bad.

It's totally not like you just read 1 comment without reading the stream before joyfully attaching yourself to the discussion. But of course. I hope I'm misinterpreting this.

[MPK]

If I'm interpreting this correctly.

Sure, but the simple fact of the matter his bad publicity at the time lost him a contract, as it has done with other social media stars their brand deals or partnerships. The point isn't that "Can just make more money lul" - It was a counterpoint to "No such thing as bad publicity" which relies on the simple fact that all attention in the media will further the cause or agenda even if said attention paints them in a bad light. Cancel culture has largely encouraged accountability for what you say.

Or are you going to imply to me that PewDiePie being mentioned across the media as a result of his antisemitic comments and thusly losing his contract helped to forward an agenda or cause?

It's totally not like you just read 1 comment without reading the stream before joyfully attaching yourself to the discussion. But of course. I hope I'm misinterpreting this.

He sure did get mentioned on the news when that happened and that most likely got people to remember that he still exists. He probably gained tons of viewers too.

[lezard21]

Or are you going to imply to me that PewDiePie being mentioned across the media as a result of his antisemitic comments and thusly losing his contract helped to forward an agenda or cause?

The attention given by media meant more people who didn't know what a Pewdiepie was went to check his videos, increasing his view count, increasing his revenue. So yes, no publicity is bad publicity. What he lost in a contract he more than made up in views.

If you want another example you have the Fine Bros. with their child labour react channel that got cancelled twice and is going stronger than ever.

[Kaurhz]

He sure did get mentioned on the news when that happened and that most likely got people to remember that he still exists. He probably gained tons of viewers too.

He probably didn't need the news to remind people of his existence. But you're once again missing the point. That cancel culture and the overall culture of the internet and media these days have people being held accountable for their takes, or associations which is what makes "No such thing as bad publicity" invalid. Content Creators and Businesses are routinely subjected to the consequences of bad publicity that they would have been better off without engaging in or subjecting themselves to.

The attention given by media meant more people who didn't know what a Pewdiepie was went to check his videos, increasing his view count, increasing his revenue. So yes, no publicity is bad publicity. What he lost in a contract he more than made up in views.

If you want another example you have the Fine Bros. with their child labour react channel that got cancelled twice and is going stronger than ever.

I see I'm going to need to spell this out. No such thing as bad publicity wrests on the simple case of that given piece of publicity having no consequence whatsoever. Some rebound from it, from otherwise external or irrelevant circumstances. Some others simply won't.

John Galliano was suspended from Dior for antisemitic rants that were recorded. Or are you going to imply that this helped further his agenda in some way too? As I'm sure the allegations of several celebrities accused of woman beating, including that of Chris Brown went without any consequence or damage whatsoever.

The fact of the matter if you ask any company or business whether there's any such thing as bad publicity, I'm sure they'll very quickly refute it, considering how nightmarish these can be for many to deal with. You seem to be under the delusion that because they were able to bounce back or recover that it went without any consequence or negativities at all. When the fact remains that many of these people of businesses would have been MUCH better off without the publicity in the first place.

[lezard21]

John Galliano was suspended from Dior for antisemitic rants that were recorded. Or are you going to imply that this helped further his agenda in some way too? As I'm sure the allegations of several celebrities accused of woman beating, including that of Chris Brown went without any consequence or damage whatsoever.

The fact of the matter if you ask any company or business whether there's any such thing as bad publicity, I'm sure they'll very quickly refute it, considering how nightmarish these can be for many to deal with. You seem to be under the delusion that because they were able to bounce back or recover that it went without any consequence or negativities at all. When the fact remains that many of these people of businesses would have been MUCH better off without the publicity in the first place.

wtf is this fashion designer and music tangent. let me remind you the discussion we are having

ha good luck canceling streamers. How many times did pewdiepie say the nword and who's the most popular personality on youtube again?

[Kaurhz]

wtf is this fashion designer and music tangent. let me remind you the discussion we are having

Yes and as I have said the fact remains many streamers and content creators suffer severely. Some will bounce back, but if you want to insinuate in all cases of publicity that their bounceback was as a result of that original publicity, and not because of a reaction that was essentially forced upon them as a result. then I'm sorry but I'm simply going to just call that false. Yes, YouTubers and Streamers are definitely skipping to the bank joyfully whenever they lose deals as a result of the publicity.

But of course, since you wanted to interject midway through a discussion stream, the original conversation was in fact about whether there's such a thing as bad publicity, which there is. Rampant cancel culture was just one of the aforementioned examples. But alas I must clearly document every single example.