Quinn hating on the game.

[ElciaDeiLinus]

Um I don't think people care about criticism. I more care about how the cult acts like they are offended and go on twitter to attack him personally because the guy does not like the game and did not play it right. I'm just like who cares if he did not, or used his platform to spread hate. Like let him, it was fun to watch his video, and watch him play. That is it.

As you say, who cares if he liked it or not- but by that same vein of thought, who cares if random people didn't like his criticism? If you're here saying you think it's fine that he criticized the game, whether he's right or wrong about it- I agree, anyone can critique the game whether they've played it or not.

But, if you're also going to turn around and say the opposite, that other people shouldn't be allowed to then criticize him or his criticism? Why the double standard. He is just as open to getting criticized as he is for giving it. People have the same right to be offended and bash him on twitter as he does to bash them on twitter/twitch. He doesn't have to like the game, he can boost and skip the story then whine about it if he wants, he can brag about being a top notch player then stand in mechanics and die then blame healers for his own awful skill level if he wants... and other players can call him out for it if they want.

He's a professional (afaik he makes money to do this, making him a professional), part of his 'job' is playing/critiquing games in public- in turn, he's open to critique himself, especially when he acts like he's a god then can't figure out utterly mundane things like 'if I take more damage than my max health, maybe I should not trash the healers'. If he posts on twitter and has some really bad takes- why would people not respond to his terrible takes by calling them out? It's really obnoxious seeing people defend guys that act like he does and saying they just shouldn't get any pushback because it's ok to have an opinion as a streamer- you've every right to be as wrong as you want on the internet, and everyone else has that same right to tell you so.

His opinions aren't any more sacred or protected than those of the people against them.

As for twitter- this is the FFXIV forums, not twitter- people here aren't the ones responding to him on twitter, they can't control what happens on twitter, and many of us don't use twitter. As far as I've seen- most people on the forums are calling him out for things he did, I don't really see a problem with that. I'd rather have that then a community that bows to streamer whims because they huff and complain about gatekeeping every time their bad takes aren't treated like gospel.

[Puremallace]

Um I don't think people care about criticism. I more care about how the cult acts like they are offended and go on twitter to attack him personally because the guy does not like the game and did not play it right. I'm just like who cares if he did not, or used his platform to spread hate. Like let him, it was fun to watch his video, and watch him play. That is it.

Strongly suggest you hover over some of the names on Twitter hammering him as a lot of them play other games and are dying laughing at him. Quin might be big as a variety streamer but truth be told I had NO CLUE who he was until I saw him in the FF14 Twitch directory one day.

This is mostly a reddit driven bash fest because once his post is put into the context of reality the guy become a prime candidate for roasting. It is like SodaPoppin having such a major issue with a Fountain to the point he bans people who call him SodaFountain now.

All of this stuff is a character these Twitch streamers put on to entertain people and start drama so they can get some clicks. It is 100% intentional the way it is worded.

[Catwho]

Guy is a PvPer at heart his PvE experience is extremely limited.

So the question is then - why did he not go straight into XIV's extremely limited PVP?

Because if he played that, said "this sucks" then most of us would probably agree with him. XIV is the "You Tried" of MMO PVP arenas.

[Atreides]

All of this stuff is a character these Twitch streamers put on to entertain people and start drama so they can get some clicks. It is 100% intentional the way it is worded.

And this is exactly why this needs to stop, in the end it only makes the FFXIV community look bad on the outside.
Meanwhile he only wins because he becomes the talk of the streaming community aswell as the victim in this scenario.

[Dreamsoap]

Guy is a PvPer at heart his PvE experience is extremely limited.

Can't recall a time where I've put myself in a compromising situation no one can prevent death in and then screamed at the healers like a 5 year old.

[Broken_Wind]

I've only seen his initial blurb which was basically an 'its not for me post'.

I understand the pushback on a few things. "Weeb Aesthetic" is just some utter nonsense people say when they are trying to rile up people, or when they have no clue what a "Weeb Aesthetic" truly looks like.
I can see where someone is coming at with 'clunky' if they came from WoW. I dont agree, but I can at least understand this. Slow, I don't see when compared to a game like WoW. Sure, its slow at level 30 but not by level 60.
And lack of RPG elements coming from a guy playing WoW is pretty ridiculous, although he did seem to clarify that he thinks RPG elements = character customization.

So his criticism does seem to be 'this game is not for me', which is fine and people should accept that. However it does come across as someone who is ignorant of the RPG genre in general. It is a very poorly written reason for why he disliked the game, but to be fair it could be because of trying to fit it into few characters.

[CKNovel]

I've only seen his initial blurb which was basically an 'its not for me post'.

I understand the pushback on a few things. "Weeb Aesthetic" is just some utter nonsense people say when they are trying to rile up people, or when they have no clue what a "Weeb Aesthetic" truly looks like.
I can see where someone is coming at with 'clunky' if they came from WoW. I dont agree, but I can at least understand this. Slow, I don't see when compared to a game like WoW. Sure, its slow at level 30 but not by level 60.
And lack of RPG elements coming from a guy playing WoW is pretty ridiculous, although he did seem to clarify that he thinks RPG elements = character customization.

So his criticism does seem to be 'this game is not for me', which is fine and people should accept that. However it does come across as someone who is ignorant of the RPG genre in general. It is a very poorly written reason for why he disliked the game, but to be fair it could be because of trying to fit it into few characters.

He played the game hating on it, fully knowing it wasn't for him.
He completed Sastasha, bought a boost, went into Shinryu and just casually said "WoW story is better than XIV".
His community was kind enough to share his moments of... "absence" where he claims X that turns out to be a lie. It's a narcissic character built to be hated.

In any cases, don't harass the guy, don't pay attention to him. It's just another XIV hating jester.
And from now on, we need to ignore this kind of behavior, it's literally done to provoke toxicism then show the world that a bull gets mad if you wave a piece of cloth in front of it.

[Awha]

As mentioned he is a PvPer at heart complaining is great past time for many PvPers especially when it comes to shifting blame.

Granted not everyone is like that but in a moral general sense PvPers often try to shift the blame on others. Not even sure why anyone is trying to figure out the reasoning behind it. Clearly it was for shock value.

[TaleraRistain]

Wait, is this the guy who played to like level 16 on PUG I think it was and then boosted DRG? And was bitching about the story when he had barely experienced it, plus jumping straight into higher end content and then complaining about that?

And OMG CKNovel, I had forgotten about the fountain. That was hilarious. Wasn't that Asmongold?

[Atreides]

And OMG CKNovel, I had forgotten about the fountain. That was hilarious. Wasn't that Asmongold?

No, the fountain guy was Sodapoppin, Asmongold knows how fountains work.