So, a lottery system and a divide between FC and solo wards, eh?

[Almagnus1]

Harder for who? Not for the housing hoarders. They'll make back whatever they pay in rent easily, and then some. How would it make them stand out? Because the rest of the playerbase would be unable to keep up with it so anyone who actually has a house and can pay the rent is some mythical unicorn suddenly?

I don't care that other games are charging rent fees (and the only ones I know of are LotRO and EQ, none of the current big name MMOs do). This is FFXIV, not them.

Your ideas are never thought out. Your grandiose solution to a problem is taking a sledge hammer to it, no matter who gets hurt when it comes down. Placard clicking is an example of this. Your wonderful idea turned out to be a nightmare by turning players into rats in a variable ratio experiment and helping a growing placard bot underground to flourish. And those people you thought it would hurt? Laughed the whole time all the way to the gil bank.

Think before you type. Rather than grind your teeth at the idea of some housing hoarder or reseller getting away with owning their houses, consider how useful a solution really is. Sticking it to a marginal group of people should not be greater than the desire to actually come up with lasting, beneficial change.

And it's really easy to just copy-pasta that without thinking of a different alternative because you see the FFXIV housing system and go:

[Nepentha]

And it's really easy to just copy-pasta that without thinking of a different alternative because you see the FFXIV housing system and go:

No, my dear, I see the current housing situation and I say 'Hmm, how can we make this better for everyone.' While you look at it and say 'How can I punish people for doing things I don't like.'

[Almagnus1]

They do this when there's a reason that would make it so players cannot log in to check on their houses. Natural disasters, pandemics, the sort of things that happen in life where SE would rather players worry about real life than a house on a game. I think it's very kind of them to do that. I'm not sure why you think it's ok for demos to continue during such events.

SE has paused the timer in the US for a tsunami in Japan. Events that affect one region should not affect ALL regions, and this uneven pausing of the timer completely halts the release of houses and only further exacerbates the supply problems.

And then something happens like the get COVID and end up in the hospital or a hurricane rips through their state and they don't have internet access for awhile and their house is gone just like that because they cannot pay the weekly rent. And god forbid SE take these events into consideration and halt the demo timer for a little while.

If you are able to bank a couple of months' upkeep (like 2-3 months) you will not be out of commission for long enough that you can't use your phone and reach out to someone on discord, or through some other means. Most people aren't that disconnected from their FCs, and I would imagine that if a disaster like that happened, that the FFXIV and/or TheBalance discord servers would have a section for people to list their properties and be able to help out with the upkeep.

I fail to see how this punishes regular players, except for the imaginary "regular player" that exists only in your head.

No, my dear, I see the current housing situation and I say 'Hmm, how can we make this better for everyone.' While you look at it and say 'How can I punish people for doing things I don't like.'

Did it ever occur to you that the two aren't mutually exclusive? The system will become better for everyone by punishing those exploiting it and stopping futher exploits from occurring. This is a bit like a bot author advocating everyone to bot when the reality is that botting should never be allowed to occur and all instances of players using bots should be permabanned.

[Nepentha]

SE has paused the timer in the US for a tsunami in Japan. Events that affect one region should not affect ALL regions, and this uneven pausing of the timer completely halts the release of houses and only further exacerbates the supply problems.

God forbid anyone play on NA or EU servers if they live in JP then, rip for their houses.

If you are able to bank a couple of months' upkeep (like 2-3 months) you will not be out of commission for long enough that you can't use your phone and reach out to someone on discord, or through some other means. Most people aren't that disconnected from their FCs, and I would imagine that if a disaster like that happened, that the FFXIV and/or TheBalance discord servers would have a section for people to list their properties and be able to help out with the upkeep.

I fail to see how this punishes regular players, except for the imaginary "regular player" that exists only in your head.

Would if you could only think outside your very one dimensional box. There is not one universal experience for everyone. You act as if everyone has and uses Discord. You act as if everyone has big FC and friends groups who wouldn't be affected and therefore able to help. Your desire to punish rather than rehabilitate clouds your vision.

Did it ever occur to you that the two aren't mutually exclusive? The system will become better for everyone by punishing those exploiting it and stopping futher exploits from occurring. This is a bit like a bot author advocating everyone to bot when the reality is that botting should never be allowed to occur and all instances of players using bots should be permabanned.

Does nuance mean nothing to you? This is what I said before, you just want to sledge hammer everything. To bankrupt land barons and make them rethink ownership you would have to charge something ridiculous like 400k a day in rent. Is that what you want?

Again: Think before you type. Come up with an idea that doesn't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

[Almagnus1]

God forbid anyone play on NA or EU servers if they live in JP then, rip for their houses.

That's why I'm suggesting a system that allows for someone to unsubscribe and keep their house as long as the upkeep gets paid (either by their banked upkeep or some other person paying upkeep on it) for an indefinite period of time. Why are you so blind to that positive?

Would if you could only think outside your very one dimensional box. There is not one universal experience for everyone. You act as if everyone has and uses Discord. You act as if everyone has big FC and friends groups who wouldn't be affected and therefore able to help. Your desire to punish rather than rehabilitate clouds your vision.

And you have yet to provide a concrete example (other than emotional based reasoning) where what I am suggesting actually has a negative impact on anyone. If there was an upkeep, there's likely to be threads on this forum that will allow those that seek help to get it. Stop assuming that the average player is completely helpless and won't seek help if they need it. Additionally, if you are so ardent to help people you would be able to cruise the neighborhoods and help pay upkeep so you yourself could help people on your datacenter in those times of need.

This is a mechanic that enables us to help each other when it's needed.

Does nuance mean nothing to you?

I'm starting to wonder if you're not saying this to yourself and not me....

This is what I said before, you just want to sledge hammer everything. To bankrupt land barons and make them rethink ownership you would have to charge something ridiculous like 400k a day in rent. Is that what you want.

And what exactly does bankrupting land barons have to do with any of this?

There are plenty of gil sinks in FFXIV that aren't bankrupting people like the repair and teleport costs. Just because it's a gil sink, doesn't mean that it's designed to make the rich less richer, just bleed out a bit of gil from the economy. I see housing upkeep more in line with teleport and repair costs than something like the 25M or 50M mounts. The only way it ever gets to that point is when you start having to pay upkeep across 20-30 properties. Again, your ersatz fixation on making this into some way to bankrupt the rich shows a complete loss of nuance.

[Sotaris]

SE has paused the timer in the US for a tsunami in Japan.

No, they paused it for everyone. Hate to break it to you but there is more regions than NA and JP.
It might just be that the system is universal and if you pause it it affect all data centers.

Oh, you didn't know the original RNG timer is from him too?

Great, not surprised if he hinted about it given these other suggestions.

It's cause I had an actual stalker that found the thread, followed me around to every single forum, brought it up, and I had to report them into the ground just to have a somewhat normal experience on the forum again and they kept pointing to that thread in every... single... one of their responses. Let's see you deal with that abuse and see how well you like the original idea afterwards.

I don't condone stalking but what you've described in the past threads isn't stalking.

So you don't like getting called out for your ideas? Own up to it and think twice before posting might be a good idea :')

[Vahlnir]

And it's really easy to just copy-pasta that without thinking of a different alternative because you see the FFXIV housing system and go:

That picture accurately depicts your housing "fixes". Pot, meet kettle.