So, a lottery system and a divide between FC and solo wards, eh?

[NanaWiloh]

And how do you know we're going to have absurd RNG with choosing a house?

*facepalm* Lottery=rng Next ignoranace loaded question please

[Almagnus1]

*facepalm* Lottery=rng Next ignoranace loaded question please

Quit dodging the question. How do you know it's going to be absurd RNG and not something that's just meh RNG?

[NanaWiloh]

Quit dodging the question. How do you know it's going to be absurd RNG and not something that's just meh RNG?

Rng is Rng and rng gets worse the more variables you have. "here's your sign" - Bill Engval

Explain how RNG of a lottery system is going to fix housing? Explain how its going to ensure players who have waited years are not going to get screwed and watch it give a house to someone who has only played 6 months? Explain how its going to keep things fair for all players no matter how long they have played? Give every player assurance they will get a house so long as they meet the requirements, Assure them rng in your beloved lottery wont screw them over for months or years. Lets see the big witty brain of truth you got answer all this.

No excuses, No saying you have no clue or don't know, no saying SE needs to figure it out. You been pushing this idea now make players believe its a good idea show them all that Hype you have for it. Time to step up and address the cons of a lottery system and ease people concerns.

[NanaWiloh]

Here's and idea that's been presented before pro's and cons. WAIT LIST!!

You put your name on the list. Players near the top get offered any homes that are up and then it moves down the list from there.
Pros
No random selection
No Concern if someone has more gil then you
No wondering if you will ever get a home
You are assured a house soon as you are close enough to the top. If there are 5 homes up then the top 5 players get them and the list moves down.

Cons-
Have to wait your turn
First come first serve on the list
No promise you will get the plot and size you want. Size can be fixed with a size selection. Plot just got to live..

Few other things about it that need to be addressed but its better then a lottery where you don't know the outcome..But if you like the idea of a 6 month old player getting a house first try after you have tried 105 times..enjoy your punishment.

[Almagnus1]

Explain how RNG of a lottery system is going to fix housing? Explain how its going to ensure players who have waited years are not going to get screwed and watch it give a house to someone who has only played 6 months? Explain how its going to keep things fair for all players no matter how long they have played? Give every player assurance they will get a house so long as they meet the requirements, Assure them rng in your beloved lottery wont screw them over for months or years. Lets see the big witty brain of truth you got answer all this.

No excuses, No saying you have no clue or don't know, no saying SE needs to figure it out. You been pushing this idea now make players believe its a good idea show them all that Hype you have for it. Time to step up and address the cons of a lottery system and ease people concerns.

Did it ever occur to you that you're fixating on a (likely) trivial part of what Yoshi-P said and missing the more significant part because you are having a knee-jerk reaction to RNG?

[NanaWiloh]

Did it ever occur to you that you're fixating on a (likely) trivial part of what Yoshi-P said and missing the more significant part because you are having a knee-jerk reaction to RNG?

Until you answer those questions far as I am concerned your a waste of forum space. If you are going to make suggestions then you better have the brass to address concerns which you clearly lack.

[Almagnus1]

Until you answer those questions far as I am concerned your a waste of forum space. If you are going to make suggestions then you better have the brass to address concerns which you clearly lack.

When all of your questions can be addressed as "I need more information about what SE is going to do before I can give you an actual answer" and I have stated such numerous times over the course of a thread.... why should I have to keep repeating the obvious to someone that isn't getting it?

Hmm I wonder why you didn't bother to quote the whole comment I made.

Your suggestion would screw everyone over, even the top 1% you claim you're trying to stop with these idiotic suggestions.
Also since when I have I worshipped and adored anyone?

And you wonder why you're so disliked in this forum.

Tbh, I want to see alternative mechanics so we can delete all the timers related to the housing system from the game. While we all acknowledge that the flip timer is bad...

The auto-demo timer would be a good mechanic if SE stopped pausing the stupid thing - which renders the auto-demo mechanic basically useless. We need to implement an alternative way to the auto-demolition timer and an upkeep mechanic would do just that (provided the house is demo'd once a week goes by that upkeep wasn't paid). Additionally, as the upkeep should be handled through the placard for the house, that means that you can definitely take a break from the game for as long as you need to and still keep your house provided you have made arrangements for someone to keep paying for it. For example, you have an FC mate with a house that just got deployed, and they know they're going to be touch and go for a couple of months, they can have another FC mate (or their spouse) pay the upkeep while they are unable to play, and they will be able to return to their house once they are back to a more normal life with however many months that may take - which is something you can't really do with the auto-demo timer AFAIK.

While I thought I didn't need to explain money management, by turning an asset into a liability (in other words, by attaching a perpetual cost to a house in terms of upkeep) it's going to make a lot of the people holding large swaths of land question if they want to retain those properties, or if they should unload them because what was an asset is now a fiscal liability. Those good with money are going to see this, run the numbers, and reevaluate whether or not they want to continue to hold land, or if they should unload them. That means we're likely to see houses released because they realized it was no longer worth it to retain the house and would make more sense to cut their losses and liquidate the assets rather than retain them simply by attaching an upkeep to the house.

[Nepentha]

The auto-demo timer would be a good mechanic if SE stopped pausing the stupid thing which renders the auto-demo mechanic basically useless.

They do this when there's a reason that would make it so players cannot log in to check on their houses. Natural disasters, pandemics, the sort of things that happen in life where SE would rather players worry about real life than a house on a game. I think it's very kind of them to do that. I'm not sure why you think it's ok for demos to continue during such events.

We need to implement an alternative way to the auto-demolition timer and an upkeep mechanic would do just that (provided the house is demo'd once a week goes by that upkeep wasn't paid). Additionally, as the upkeep should be handled through the placard for the house, that means that you can definitely take a break from the game for as long as you need to and still keep your house provided you have made arrangements for someone to keep paying for it. For example, you have an FC mate with a house that just got deployed, and they know they're going to be touch and go for a couple of months, they can have another FC mate (or their spouse) pay the upkeep while they are unable to play, and they will be able to return to their house once they are back to a more normal life with however many months that may take - which is something you can't really do with the auto-demo timer AFAIK.

I'd agree with you on this. Except no demo timer and no rent to be paid. Just allow a tenant to run through the house to keep it from auto demoing, which is the same for FCs atm.

While I thought I didn't need to explain money management, by turning an asset into a liability (in other words, by attaching a perpetual cost to a house in terms of upkeep) it's going to make a lot of the people holding large swaths of land question if they want to retain those properties, or if they should unload them because what was an asset is now a fiscal liability.

I wish I could stop explaining to you that this just isn't going to work. Land barons have billions on hand. Literal billions. I've interviewed a few of them for posterity and curiosity. This idea of yours wouldn't stop them at all. But it would def punish regular players who just want A House. And then something happens like the get COVID and end up in the hospital or a hurricane rips through their state and they don't have internet access for awhile and their house is gone just like that because they cannot pay the weekly rent. And god forbid SE take these events into consideration and halt the demo timer for a little while.