Recent Q&A about glamour log...

[Ranhansha]

I'm not sure what this log is. Is it like WoW's transmog system or just a "catalogue" where you can preview the sets and that's all?
If it's the first, I don't understand how WoW did it 20 years ago and we're still accepting the "sorry we can't" like it's actually real. If it's the second. Why would that be preferable to the first option when armoire space is so scarce and running even scarcer with every patch?

[TheMightyMollusk]

I don't understand how WoW did it 20 years ago

Five years. The wardrobe feature was added in the pre-patch for the Legion expansion. (Also, WoW's not quite 20 years old yet.)

[hobostew]

Five years. The wardrobe feature was added in the pre-patch for the Legion expansion. (Also, WoW's not quite 20 years old yet.)

Took them a while to cobble it together, no? I always assumed the mount collection tab was a precursor to the transmog tab and that was added a fair bit before I think.

Personally I'm pretty disappointed with that response but I'm also glad someone finally asked it and that we got a clear answer. I think I'm just gonna stop collecting anything class locked and throw away anything I'm not super attached to so I can dial back the number of retainers I currently have.

[TeraRamis]

Took them a while to cobble it together, no.

Yes, and the glamour dresser has been around quite a while now, too. And I'm not trying to be snide - I'm rather saying: they've had (multiple) years now to anticipate that this could become a major problem, and now we are at that juncture, and the answer cannot be "nope, sorry, we can't."

Maybe they can't within the context of the current system, but that's when you tear down that system and build a new one. You can't continue to sell this game so heavily around paperdollism (and expect people to bolster profits by buying expensive outfits on the Mogstation) if your hardware cannot accommodate that playstyle. I mean, glamour is what FFXIV is for a lot of us.

[TaleraRistain]

Maybe they can't within the context of the current system, but that's when you tear down that system and build a new one. You can't continue to sell this game so heavily around paperdollism (and expect people to bolster profits by buying expensive outfits on the Mogstation) if your hardware cannot accommodate that playstyle. I mean, glamour is what FFXIV is for a lot of us.

Migrating software systems is not just a wham, bam, thank you ma'am type of task. I can tell you've never done anything with databases or software engineering, and especially never had to deal with years of spaghetti code. Doing what you're acting like should be an easy task is not fast and is not cheap if you want to make sure you aren't massively breaking things in the process.

[SniperCT]

if you want to make sure you aren't massively breaking things in the process.

This is I think the key thing a lot of people aren't realizing. It's not just that it's work, it's also work that could actually break the game if there's a goof up. We're talking deleted items and characters type stuff.

[DPZ2]

I'm not sure what this log is. Is it like WoW's transmog system or just a "catalogue" where you can preview the sets and that's all?
If it's the first, I don't understand how WoW did it 20 years ago and we're still accepting the "sorry we can't" like it's actually real. If it's the second. Why would that be preferable to the first option when armoire space is so scarce and running even scarcer with every patch?

Ummm... WoW wasn't even a game 20 years ago. Perhaps you meant 10 years ago? They basically rewrote the entire game code at the time, blew up all the level 1-60 areas in a worldwide disaster and lost what many considered the essence of WoW (which is why the 'classic' servers are so popular).

My thoughts about "this should be easy" -- Blizzard did not actually tell us how much time and effort went into their coding effort, nor has Square Enix has ever given us a look at the code for the glamour system.

You might think it's as simple as maintaining a bitmap, but you have no idea how it was done, nor how much time and effort it would take to make it into something similar to the transmog system in WoW.

[Vahlnir]

Ummm... WoW wasn't even a game 20 years ago. Perhaps you meant 10 years ago? They basically rewrote the entire game code at the time, blew up all the level 1-60 areas in a worldwide disaster and lost what many considered the essence of WoW (which is why the 'classic' servers are so popular).

My thoughts about "this should be easy" -- Blizzard did not actually tell us how much time and effort went into their coding effort, nor has Square Enix has ever given us a look at the code for the glamour system.

You might think it's as simple as maintaining a bitmap, but you have no idea how it was done, nor how much time and effort it would take to make it into something similar to the transmog system in WoW.

Yeah. It's obvious that Yoshi P would like to do it, and feels bad about not being able to, but he simply can't due to unknown limitations. Maybe they will one day if/when they figure it out, but I'm not going to count on it.

[Arrius]

Yeah. It's obvious that Yoshi P would like to do it, and feels bad about not being able to, but he simply can't due to unknown limitations. Maybe they will one day if/when they figure it out, but I'm not going to count on it.

Exactly.
And that they had to remove the belt slot so they could utilize the free armory space to reallocate them for the new weapon/ring/job crystal slots shows already that they are pushing it with their existing tech.

They need to untangle this from the ground up, but which MMO has the time and resources for that?

[TeraRamis]

They need to untangle this from the ground up, but which MMO has the time and resources for that?

The one that's experienced a sudden windfall from thousands of unexpected subs falling from the skies as WoW implodes?

The time is now.