Sch in the new benchmark trailer

[GrimGale]

That's a neat idea, but it suffers from one issue: HP extension is practically speaking, the same as a shield. Just that others can help boost the effect once damage comes in.

That's no issue then. Synergy between healers! I understand HP extension is akin to a shield, but being able to "extend" the shield by healing (At least until the effect runs out) ins't a bad mechanic. At the very least it's more interesting than another shield.

[Aiscence]

We didn't see the fairy once in the trailer, I wonder if they got rid of it :c

[WaxSw]

We didn't see the fairy once in the trailer, I wonder if they got rid of it :c

It's still there as the image of the Sch AF gear has eos in it. If it's still the same, they improve the ai or just kill her and make her a cooldown is to be seen

[Dearche]

That's no issue then. Synergy between healers! I understand HP extension is akin to a shield, but being able to "extend" the shield by healing (At least until the effect runs out) ins't a bad mechanic. At the very least it's more interesting than another shield.

I remember SE saying that the problem with mitigation and shields is that if you can stack too much of it, it allows players to just ignore mechanics. Adding HP extension as part of a normal skill set would do just that. As it is, only one tank has it, and it's very limited in its use beyond just being another tank CD.

[Laerune]

Maybe a upgrade to Adlo?

[GrimGale]

Maybe a upgrade to Adlo?

An upgrade to Excogitation possibly. It shares the same page tearing animatiom than Excogitation and is also a skill rather than a Spell.

Adloquium is a spell, it would be strange for a spell to upgrade into an skill.

[MintnHoney]

We didn't see the fairy once in the trailer, I wonder if they got rid of it :c

Correct me if I'm wrong, but SCHs have an ability which effectively sacrifices/eats the fairy, in order to grant them more stacks, right? Since SMN seems to have gotten the ability to fuse with their primals (per the benchmark), perhaps the SCHs really do eat the fairy and fuse with it to gain access to greater healing powers, like the one that this thread was originally discussing.
Their version of AST's Neutral Sect (although, mums the word on whether or not that stays)

[IceBlueNinja]

I remember SE saying that the problem with mitigation and shields is that if you can stack too much of it, it allows players to just ignore mechanics. Adding HP extension as part of a normal skill set would do just that. As it is, only one tank has it, and it's very limited in its use beyond just being another tank CD.

thats why i love noct ast especially double ast even if its not a meta. di shields and noct shield stack is over kill with regens to boot thats 7 regen 4 shields at once using ci di and neu spells from both ast cu too

[Anahlise_Auhn_Giinslai]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but SCHs have an ability which effectively sacrifices/eats the fairy, in order to grant them more stacks, right? Since SMN seems to have gotten the ability to fuse with their primals (per the benchmark), perhaps the SCHs really do eat the fairy and fuse with it to gain access to greater healing powers, like the one that this thread was originally discussing.

Since you did ask, allow me to make a correction... Scholar does not sacrifice or "eat" the Faerie. The vore BS is just a dumb joke that became popular. What the ability actually does, is unsummon the Faerie, while it has also had two versions, one that resummons the Faerie, and one that makes you manually resummon the Faerie.

[Grimoire-M]

I remember SE saying that the problem with mitigation and shields is that if you can stack too much of it, it allows players to just ignore mechanics. Adding HP extension as part of a normal skill set would do just that. As it is, only one tank has it, and it's very limited in its use beyond just being another tank CD.

This doesn’t matter as much as they think. You can and sometimes should tailor design around expected synergies in each composition, particularly since they’re forcing homogeneity down our throats. The upside of this is you can then count on healers and tanks alike to have a solid solution to heavier checks. Phases like the Quietus spam post-Terminal Relativity are a good thing to pull out from time to time.