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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illy_Peridot View Post
    y'all actin like we aren't seeing some of the highest subs in the game's history for this multi-billion dollar company.

    yes, certainly it would be awful to their finances to add more wards for the ridiculously high subscriber count. we must perish the thought of them using the money the game earns to better fund one of the core aspects of it.
    There's a few key problems with adding additional wards:

    1) I'm not sure the housing UI is designed to scale indefinitely, so this is going to need dev time to fix

    2) I'm not sure how many wards can fit on a server, and there's only finite space in the datacenter for servers

    3) Servers are expensive, and there's a cost to benefit analysis with this as it may not make fiscal sense to add more servers. This is a point we will likely never get any data on, but is something we must be cognizant of.
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    Last edited by Almagnus1; 07-07-2021 at 05:10 AM. Reason: 2 =/= 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illy_Peridot View Post
    y'all actin like we aren't seeing some of the highest subs in the game's history for this multi-billion dollar company.

    yes, certainly it would be awful to their finances to add more wards for the ridiculously high subscriber count. we must perish the thought of them using the money the game earns to better fund one of the core aspects of it.
    Just having money does not instantly and automatically buy anything you want.

    There are technical and logistical aspects that have to be overcome. They need to contract for more room for the new hardware in the locations that currently house the game servers (which are in multiple locations around the world so those contracts must be negotiated multiple times). They need to obtain that hardware (you can't just walk into a Fry's to buy it on a whim). They need to get that hardware safely to the data center locations. They need qualified technicians with time available to get it installed. Then the programming needs to be installed and tested.

    If they can't work out a contract with any one of the data center locations for whatever reason, that puts everything on hold. If the companies that make the needed server hardware have delays in production, that puts everything on hold. If some of the hardware ends up damaged in transit, that puts everything on hold. If the technicians needed to do the installation and programming can't get to one or more of the data center locations because of things like COVID travel restrictions, that puts everything on hold.

    Only a spoiled little rich kid who was pampered by their rich parents thinks that money is an all-powerful solution to everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illy_Peridot View Post
    y'all we must perish the thought of them using the money the game earns to better fund one of the core aspects of it.
    The money they earn DOES fund the core aspects. But there's something you need to realize.

    Housing is not a Core Aspect to Square Enix.

    The Core Aspects are the dungeons, story, raids (Both normal and alliance. Even more-so if it's a sponsored raid-set, a la Nier) world-building and such. Housing and the infamous Manderville questline (Which is a fan favorite.) Are all side-line content that they will get to, once they can relieve resources from other areas. Given how long it took them to make the Firmament and talk about 'potentially' upgrading wards and districts, you can imagine that is quite rare.

    Even with all of that done, most of the money they 'earn' go to upgrading software, hardware, paying workers and the VAs, which I imagine are quite steep amounts of money taken out of their profits. While I imagine SE isn't working on a razor-thin wire, they cannot simply just hire more people to give every faucet the same resources as the MSQ. that would be suicide for the company.

    There's a lot of logistical hoops they have to jump through and that costs an ever-increasing amount of capital to do, as people get more and more greedy. COVID and the current shortage (and subsequent gouging of computer parts) are definitely not helping keeping prices lower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenky View Post
    The money they earn DOES fund the core aspects. But there's something you need to realize.

    Housing is not a Core Aspect to Square Enix.
    You're totally right, but man it's easy to forget this when every patch comes with a slew of new housing items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Only a spoiled little rich kid who was pampered by their rich parents thinks that money is an all-powerful solution to everything.
    boy do I wish but naw I grew up toeing the poverty line, thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illy_Peridot View Post
    boy do I wish but naw I grew up toeing the poverty line, thanks
    Sorry to hear that's how you grew up.

    Looks like you're in a better place financially now. I hope things continue to improve for you and those you care about in the coming years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illy_Peridot View Post
    y'all actin like we aren't seeing some of the highest subs in the game's history for this multi-billion dollar company.

    yes, certainly it would be awful to their finances to add more wards for the ridiculously high subscriber count. we must perish the thought of them using the money the game earns to better fund one of the core aspects of it.
    Do you realize why Apple never want to move their factory back to US even they earned much more profit than little Square Enix?
    It it is because of the high rent and labor cost in US.
    Different than Apple, SE need to settle their servers in NA and that also limited their ability to put up more server.
    Unless, you have a rich father can offers free office building to SE for free? Do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Would still be interesting to see if only to help put things into perspective. Besides, once you get into the area where the servers actually are, there's not much to see there other than racks of computers... it's all the stuff from the outside world getting to that point that shouldn't be recorded because of what you said.

    Besides, seeing how a datacenter actually works is kinda neat =D

    colocation makes this complex at best. check out Custodian Data Centers on youtube, pretty good idea of datacenters in general, though designs of the DC's obviously vary.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN2...5E_wke2cKcNSjg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    I'm kinda getting tired of the back and forth on these forums. It's all 'I want SE to take this away from other players' all the time. I don't want to argue about how to stop housing resellers, or about placard clicking or bots that have been created to make a quick buck off people desperate to get a house. I want SE to finally, definitively, put an end to this.

    Give us more housing wards.

    Not two or three, as is the usual.

    A hundred. No, five hundred. A /thousand/.

    Give us enough that you can remove all the current restrictions. People can own as many homes as they can have alts on a server and who cares, there's enough housing to go around. Hell give us two more subdivisions, so there's 4 divisions per ward.

    I don't want to hear 'but but but server space yadda yadda'. If SE is determined to keep housing like this, then figure out a way to drop enough housing wards on us that it'll take a good long time for them to fill up.

    Stop making players fight with each other for housing, SE. I'm tired of the divisions it's caused. Put out the fire, it's in your power to do so.

    Don't just give us /more/ housing. Give us /enough/ housing.

    Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

    they are limited by the core design, just like the inventory system cripples the glamour system. they are removing belt just so they can expand rings and mainhand. the inventory system is very poorly designed and scales badly. the housing system isn't much better. all those plots are not free storage, they need to BE somewhere. pure instanced housing would be better, but they either cant, or wont, implement that. ive seen it stated that they dont intended every one to have a house, and the obvious neighborhood design supports that. it's like they took all the downsides of Archeage housing and all the downsides of instanced housing, slapped that together, and called it "housing"
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    [QUOTE=Kenky;5600088]The money they earn DOES fund the core aspects. But there's something you need to realize.

    Housing is not a Core Aspect to Square Enix.

    You say that but Housing is a key feature in their promotional material even on the free trial page... If you advertise something in your game, everyone should have access to it. And like it was already mentionned, stop giving us so much housing items (specially exterior items...) as quest rewards when the majority of your player base can't even use them (swimming pool, pumpkin carriage, etc)
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