Harassment to Asmongold on his 1st day stream is an Embarassment to FF Community

[Kaurhz]

Currently there is 162k watchers in FFXIV category in Twitch.
Asmongold stream is currently having 156k viewers.




He had it comming eh. So welcoming for new players.

That is generally the price you pay for being a streamer/celebrity, for better or worse. He'd experience it on other games, as practically A LOT of other prominent streamers do.

Not that I condone the behavior at all, because I don't - I find it utterly repulsive and disgusting. But I don't think you can be a streamer the size of Asmongold, and go into an MMO like XIV, and really think you're genuinely going to be left to play the game without disruption - Be it from toxic players, or other players/viewers that want to try and experience the game alongside him on the same server.

[Alaray]

It's kind of inevitable that it'll happen, idk why it's surprising considering it happens in any game he plays. 200k people, 150k people, watching. Who woulda thunk a handful of them would want attention and be weird. Anyone who can like... probably just think, a little, could've come to that conclusion after a good ten seconds. There's even precedent, so... like... idk how it's anymore surprising than the sun rising in the morning.

XIV's community ain't perfect, and is basically the same as any other online game community (maybe it's cleaner most of the time in chat, but there was Some Stuff going down in the chat during the whole Memorial event that wasn't all too far removed from what you'd read in WoW's LFG). On top of the standard Gamer Stuff that flies around (in game, in community discords etc... ), it has just the same amount of tribalism League/DOTA 2 have, has the same weirdos who'll go on a crusade against a guy because "Plays Different Game" intermixed with people who want to be seen as Bastions of Morality who'll grab a genuine, real, critique someone may have and run with it and take it too far or don't understand the message and try to use it as a bludgeon instead of an informative tool. It also has the same centrist-y types who think they're smarter than everyone else because they generally only hold the most popular opinion around and do the same thing as the "Woke Twitter Crowd" that they say they hate so much. It's the same kind of echo chamber of 2 different types of people who are gonna be trapped in a forever fight as long as their bubbles of the XIV community are the only places they interact within. Same shit can be found in any game.

And all the worse stuff isn't a stranger to the community, either. Gonna hound x community for having predators in it, then you gotta admit XIV has that problem, too.

If people actually care about having a good community, then those people should actually look at it and think about it a little more and maybe try to put forth the action to make it a better community. But it'll mostly be written off, ignored, until some Big Outside Thing happens all energy gets focused into for a bit until someone either takes it too far, or it fizzles out in like, a week or a month after the main event.

tl;dr: XIV's community is your stock standard online community. There's reasons people might not like Bald Man and that's fine, harassing the guy is still a dick move and it's flawed to think that the XIV community/his community would act any different because it's XIV.

I don't really care if he gets chased by a billion people or not, it's not my problem to put up with. But if someone really doesn't like the guy, or something, just don't support him and support one of the smaller streamers in the community instead in some way. It makes a bigger difference than being a stream room jester for a minute.

[Drakonic]

Just another example

[lezard21]

I really hope Square conducts a full investigation on this and sends a couple of people to the gaol or straight up ban.

Specially cause a lot of the people harrasing Asmon had Extreme and Savage mounts, so they were probably RMT purchased since endgame raiders would not risk their accounts and all the work they put into them for this petty tantrum of not liking someone because they play a different game.

In fact, a lot of endgame raiders I've spoken to were thrilled that Asmon was joining since that would also bring Mythic difficulty raiders over from WoW and god knows we need more people capable of running Savage and Ultimate content.

[Drakonic]

In fact, a lot of endgame raiders I've spoken to were thrilled that Asmon was joining since that would also bring Mythic difficulty raiders over from WoW and god knows we need more people capable of running Savage and Ultimate content.

lmao no asmon's fanbase aren't the type of people running savage/ultimate

if anything DF quality has dropped sharply since the influx.

[Rae88]

Just another example

Yeah quite a few people are trying to find excuses to say it wasn't sections of the FF14 community being toxic yesterday. It was, and it was incredibly pathetic behaviour. Some people really need to grow up.

[RyuDragnier]

Yeah quite a few people are trying to find excuses to say it wasn't sections of the FF14 community being toxic yesterday. It was, and it was incredibly pathetic behaviour. Some people really need to grow up.

And quite a few people are constantly finding excuses to say it's the entire FF14 community instead of sections, and those people need to grow up as well. The entire community cannot get onto Cactuar, only those in Aether. Primal, Crystal, Elemental, Gaia, Mana, Chaos, and Light players cannot enter that DC, cannot get onto that server. That's players from 1 out of the 8 data centers doing the harassment, and still a fraction of those players.

[Jojoya]

So as like Asmongold i'm a WoW veteran who's been playing nonstop for 2 months now. 501 hours in and i'm in ShB.
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I'm sorry if you're feeling unwelcome but the majority of the FFXIV community is no different from the majority of the WoW community - quiet, polite if they're interacting with you, mostly just wanting to relax and have fun playing a game. They're worth getting to know.

It doesn't mean we don't have that tiny percentage that is toxic just like WoW has. Sounds like you were unfortunate enough to run into a few of that tiny percentage.

What you list as your experience in 2 of the FCs you tried is no different from hundreds of stories that Preach has read on his Drama Time videos about the backstabbing and bickering that goes on in WoW guilds.

Then there are FCs like mine where about a third of the members are WoW veterans that lost interest in that game but found they enjoy FFXIV and have made friends with others who have never played WOW at all and don't care to.

It's got nothing to do with the game or the game's community. It has to do with the person. It is unfair to judge an entire community based on the actions of a few individuals.

You throw out 5% of being the number of jerks in Asmongold's community. Well he's got almost 400k subscribers of one of his multiple YouTube channels alone. That would mean there are 20,000 jerks in his community.

Do you genuinely think there aren't at least 500 of those jerks who don't also happen to play FFXIV and jumped on the chance to show up for his stream yesterday?

Again, sorry you've had bad experience with a few isolated individuals who play FFXIV but they aren't reflective of the community nor is the community responsible for them.

Asmongold, on the other hand, does share some responsibility for the actions of those in his community because he puts them up to a lot of the crap they do. In one of his highlight videos he posted last week, he encouraged his viewers to report a specific player in his party for name violation and you could see that player going offline almost immediately as the game kicked him from the server because of those reports.

That's supposed to be a reasonable and nice guy? Do you think those viewers just randomly and independently reported that player and not because he told him to do it?

The last thing anyone wants is for him to start up that sort of crap here. At least here he'll end up getting banned for doing it even if Blizzard turns a blind eye.

Yeah quite a few people are trying to find excuses to say it wasn't sections of the FF14 community being toxic yesterday. It was, and it was incredibly pathetic behaviour. Some people really need to grow up.

Keep ignoring that it was also sections of the Asmongold community acting just as toxic, why don't you?

[ElciaDeiLinus]

lmao no asmon's fanbase aren't the type of people running savage/ultimate

if anything DF quality has dropped sharply since the influx.

Interesting that in one thread you're taking the gcbtw meme stance and bashing people on twitter/reddit who are hostile while painting the community with that brush- and now you turn around and imply that his own fanbase are low quality players that can't do savages/ultimates.

I get you're desperate to find toxicity- but maybe go on an alt before you decide to start creating it yourself.

[Zachia]

Asmongold, on the other hand, does share some responsibility for the actions of those in his community because he puts them up to a lot of the crap they do. In one of his highlight videos he posted last week, he encouraged his viewers to report a specific player in his party for name violation and you could see that player going offline almost immediately as the game kicked him from the server because of those reports.

That's supposed to be a reasonable and nice guy? Do you think those viewers just randomly and independently reported that player and not because he told him to do it?

The last thing anyone wants is for him to start up that sort of crap here. At least here he'll end up getting banned for doing it even if Blizzard turns a blind eye.


Keep ignoring that it was also sections of the Asmongold community acting just as toxic, why don't you?

Humanity is toxic, there were england citizens at their football game taunting a 10 year old german girl because that girl was crying her team was losing than blaming germanys history of world war 2 in why they should lose / suffer. Also the person with the name report had the N word in their name the word black people call other black people.