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  1. #71
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    kaynide's Avatar
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I think you're underestimating how much the nose and jawline matter. They can make a big difference to how the faces look. Some models vary a lot more noticably than others, but overall it would be quite a loss to character diversity.
    I mean, sure, but we are talking about something hardly noticeable outside of our own character, that our computer is going to load for every character we meet. Surely there are more worthwhile investments of character options.

    Like, instead of “Human, face 1, jaw 3, nose 2” we could see “human, face 1, body shape 3, body option 2”.

    An example of some generic body shapes on humans in GW2. Nothing overly nuts, but you can have a more muscular or slender body frame. The options for the human male being body hair and muscular tone.



    For human females, it’s more about legs/chest and level of fat.



    This is by far more meaningful (to me) than a very slight variation between noses.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 06-29-2021 at 02:14 AM.

  2. #72
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    Tsumdere's Avatar
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    Fia Mortivault
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    I mean, sure, but we are talking about something hardly noticeable outside of our own character, that our computer is going to load for every character we meet. Surely there are more worthwhile investments of character options.

    This is by far more meaningful (to me) than a very slight variation between noses.
    Why can't we have both? We should be adding more char customization not removing it.
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  3. #73
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    Jubei Murata
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    Lamia
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayuhra View Post
    Every race needs some love but yes please for addressing elezen.

    Our animations are uh
    This is my biggest issue with my Elezen. I can get over the gangly appearance since this is hardly the first FF race with this kind of body type (Elvaan, Guado, Yuke, etc.) The animations are just really dull compared to most other races.
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  4. #74
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    I mean, sure, but we are talking about something hardly noticeable outside of our own character, that our computer is going to load for every character we meet. Surely there are more worthwhile investments of character options.
    It applies to NPCs as well, though. You see them a lot more up close in cutscenes and people already remark on them being too similar to each other. Take away the face shape options and it's harder to make a character whose face is recognisable even among similar ones.
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  5. #75
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Phoenix
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I'll concede on run animation. Outside that, I'm perfect.
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  6. #76
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Cerberus
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    Why can't we have both? We should be adding more char customization not removing it.
    Right?

    I like being able to play a character with a strong jaw.
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  7. #77
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    Why can't we have both? We should be adding more char customization not removing it.
    In a perfect world, both is great, but I am running under the assumption that The Devs will claim they are limited by resources and can only allow for a few points of customization on your character.

    My point is, if that is true, I would rather the choices be larger in scale. As in, sure, have the stronger jaw and also a more muscular frame.

    And as far as faces already being too similar, that is also my point. The nose and jaw options are really just not that impactful. I’m am only advocating for the options to have a bigger variation, like as much as there is between each face.
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  8. #78
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    Princess Walk
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    All races but Miqo'te need a revamp, honestly.

    Midlander: Animated like stiff robots in human skin. Female lack good faces.

    Highlanders: No eyebrows. Share some of the stiff robotic issues of midlanders.

    Elezen: Horrible walk/run animation. Female have tiny heads in large necks.

    Roes: better face options would be nice

    Au'ra: Goofy walk/run animation for males. Issues with horns/scales that are stuck to face choices. No muscle slider.

    Hrothgar: Horrible walk/run animation. Can't wear most headgear. Need to fantasia to change between their ridiculously few hairstyles. No muscle slider.

    Viera: Also have very limited hairstyle/options and can't wear most headgear.

    Miqo'te: Cute/handsome. Best walk/run/idle/emote animations in the game. Lack of aesthetic/animation goofyness made them be picked by the majority.

    And no one can say with a straight face that Miqo'te need anything. There is a reason why they're by far and large the most popular race if you ignore bots.

    Edit: Aside from more facial hair options I don't think Lalas need anything either.
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    Last edited by ReynTime; 06-29-2021 at 01:45 PM.

  9. #79
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    Fia Mortivault
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Right?

    I like being able to play a character with a strong jaw.
    I also like stronger jaws. And I prefer bigger noses, so I would hate being reverted to really small features since the smaller features are usually default on every race.
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  10. #80
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    And no one can say with a straight face that Miqo'te need anything. There is a reason why they're by far and large the most popular race if you ignore bots.
    ill look you dead in the eyes face as straight as the bridge to ishgard that miqote need face markings as an option,option to remove wrinkles on face 3,more ear tip colors and no kung fu grip on male miqote
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