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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Kizuya Katogami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dearche View Post
    Controller is 5x8 buttons, right? Considering that all healers are roughly at 30 skills or less, it's pretty easy to fit a lot more new skills, since you can fit 40.

    In fact, it actually takes more setup to get so many skills working on KB+M because the default binds force you to move your fingers to quite extreme positions if you have more than 15 skills or so.
    5x8 yeah. KB+M has the benefit of more flexibility though. Since mouse buttons exists and there’s usually enough keyboard room to be met with comfort, whereas with controller it’s moreso trying to jumble up everything together between the bumpers, but irregardless i don’t see how you could run out of room on a keyboard and mouse for skills since healers don’t really have that much to begin with. Mostly because you can take out a few like cure 1,benefic 1 etc.
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    Dearche Claudia
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    5x8 yeah. KB+M has the benefit of more flexibility though. Since mouse buttons exists and there’s usually enough keyboard room to be met with comfort, whereas with controller it’s moreso trying to jumble up everything together between the bumpers, but irregardless i don’t see how you could run out of room on a keyboard and mouse for skills since healers don’t really have that much to begin with. Mostly because you can take out a few like cure 1,benefic 1 etc.
    Oh no, definitely KB+M is far more flexible and capable of handling more buttons. I'm not denying that. I was just trying to state that the gamepad actually has a decent default configuration, something that isn't really that good on KB+M. Once you start going past 15 skills, you NEED to do an overhaul of the controls, or else you'll be mouse clicking on a third of your skills.

    And you know, it's sad that cure 1 and its equivalents are so useless nowadays. Back in ARR, physic was my most used heal spell by far, because you couldn't afford to use the more expensive heals too often or else risk running out of MP for the big heal moments.
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    Titania Chevalier
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    Siren
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    5x8 yeah. KB+M has the benefit of more flexibility though. Since mouse buttons exists and there’s usually enough keyboard room to be met with comfort, whereas with controller it’s moreso trying to jumble up everything together between the bumpers, but irregardless i don’t see how you could run out of room on a keyboard and mouse for skills since healers don’t really have that much to begin with. Mostly because you can take out a few like cure 1,benefic 1 etc.
    Mouse buttons is a huge one. I'm using a Logitech G600 and I got 12 side buttons where my thumb is. A hotbar can hold 12 abilities. Slap on Ctrl and Alt as my modifiers and I'm able to access 36 abilities with nothing more than 12 side buttons and two modifier keys. Toss in Shift as another modifier, as well as other easy to reach keys on my keyboard and yeah, KB+M can have a super easy time accessing a ton of buttons at once. Not everyone has an MMO mouse though, but even just a mouse with two side buttons is still offering another eight abilities between base with Ctrl, Alt, and Shift modifiers.
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