Can we get normal manly males ?

[Burmecia]

I may not look like it, but I can grow some very hotblooded muttonchops and a mustache if I wanted to.

You are right, forgive me pls
Manly for sure is about attitude too, not just physique and grooming. Goes beautifully back to my original wish; show what you mean by manly and not just tell.

[Imora]

Sorry but clean shaven isn’t the same thing as having a baby face. Age has nothing to do with it. This is exactly why guys want beards so badly. For some reason they feel like boys if they don’t have facial hair. It’s ridiculous. You think Dwayne Johnson looks like a boy when he has no facial hair? Men look like men when they’re grown, not because they have a beard.

Do I think he looks like a boy? Yes.

Clean shaven = yuck

YMMV

[Coletergeist]

"Normal "
What defines normal?

[Fourbestintoner]

We need fat old ugly bastards, roes are the closest thing, but are way too bara, I'm still disappointed the fat catboys from shb opening weren't real, they were perfect.

[lezard21]

"Normal "
What defines normal?

Normal "Manly" males?

Whose "normal" ? Whose "Manly" ?

Sorry, this is not twitter, no need to feign surprise or act as if you don't know what normal means.

[Kozh]

Normal "Manly" males?

Whose "normal" ? Whose "Manly" ?

The West has a big problem with male physical stereotypes. To complain about a lack of Hyur-specific models that reflect those Western stereotypes in what is, essentially, a JRPG-based MMO, is humorous.

Ask for more facial hair options? No problem. Complain about the lack of "manly men" ... gods ... Here, have a look at some 'stout hearted men": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vjqfvZVReM&t=125s

Oh my God not this again. Why is it suddenly a "West" thing to want a more masculine looking options? Do you know if people who aks for that are all westerners?

Strange that you automatically connect "manly men" with "west male physical stereotypes"...

Anyway, I think most people's concerned is with the lack of facial hair and masculine-haircut, not that they want to have WoW orc body.

Post pictures please, of "normal manly males"? Dunno, I'd love to explore what "normal manly males" means to you random people on the mmo forum. It might be that my idea average manly guy is somehow kinda lacking, because I'm so irritatingly compliant(???).

Funny that OP actually already did post what they considered "normal manly men"

[Fland]

Sorry, this is not twitter, no need to feign surprise or act as if you don't know what normal means.

Perhaps "conventional" would be a better use here.

[MilkieTea]

Perhaps "conventional" would be a better use here.

Conventional would definitely be a better word here than normal. Because one can be a "normal manly man" and lack facial hair, and one could be the complete opposite and HAVE facial hair.

[DPZ2]

Oh my God not this again. Why is it suddenly a "West" thing to want a more masculine looking options? Do you know if people who aks for that are all westerners?

Perhaps it is because the Japanese concept of 'masculine' doesn't involve facial hair or most of the other stereotypes defined under the term "manly" in the West?

Yeah, that would be it.

Here's a clue: https://jpninfo.com/102436

[Theodric]

Japan has pretty varied tastes where men are concerned, especially when we're talking videogame characters.

This is also the section of the forum for English speakers to post on, so naturally requests are going to come from the perspective of Western players more often than not. A region of the world where FFXIV enjoys significant and ever growing success.

With that in mind, I think it's fine for this sort of request to be put forward.