Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[reivaxe]

Then Don't Make Hyper Masculine females
Make, Muscular Females.
Its that simple. Thats all that was asked. Not this Men with Boobs BS

Muscular or Masculine, which ever you want to call it (Larger muscles is def a trait associated with the male form), is inherently the road block to Femroe as it's not seen as feminine or attractive. Just like looking like barrels isn't seen as a very attractive feature in men.

So "fixing" that road block would be making changes to make them look feminine.

[Caurcas]

Ironically, having another fridge thrown in would make you able to climb up and escape the bin, guess you do like being down there

Was never in it in the first place mate. But, if you are the kind to look at data. Do please look at the gulf betwixt FemElezen and FemRoe, tis quite large. I would also like to add, atleast Elezen aren't culty like Roes tend to be.

[Allegor]

Muscular or Masculine, which ever you want to call it (Larger muscles is def a trait associated with the male form), is inherently the road block to Femroe as it's not seen as feminine or attractive. Just like looking like barrels isn't seen as a very attractive feature in men.

So "fixing" that road block would be making changes to make them look feminine.

Femroes are unpopular the same way Elezen are - tall slim elves are usually the most popular picks in games, yet in XIV they're rock bottom. Just because femroes are unappealing doesn't mean the concept of 'tall beefy women' as a whole is unappealing [looking at GW II's female Norn]

[AvenoMatt]

Can we stop for a moment and remeber that Hrothgals are not Femroes. Maleroes have a harsh/rugged appearance and so do their female counterparts. As for hrothguys their faces have varying appearances from cute to harsh and and regal to savage. I would imagine that Hrothgars would have the same. Face 1 would be regal, face 2 cute, face 3 savage, and face 4 harsh. All that would matter would be the body which if we look at hrothguys will be similar to but different to what roes have. Male roes are big and blocky and hrothguys have a more sinched in waist and general smaller frame giving then more of a athletic look. I would think that hrothgals will be muscular but have a more shapely figure. Possibly something like female highlanders.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

So "fixing" that road block would be making changes to make them look feminine.

I wonder now if you have ever seen a muscular woman in your life. Maybe you're so against it because you've never seen one, which would explain why you constantly run back to Masculinity and you keep talking about the Male Form, even though we are talking about the Female Form.
You can give a woman muscle and they can still keep their femininity. You're creatively bankrupt if you can't get over this mental roadblock of muscle = Masculine, or muscular female = Man with Boobs.

Male Hrothgar are Male Roes but a little smaller. Caurcas claims this "Fixes the body": and thus is why it works.
Just do the same thing with Female Hrothgar and FemRoe.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

atleast Elezen aren't culty like Roes tend to be.

Heavensward anybody?

[reivaxe]

Ironically, having another fridge thrown in would make you able to climb up and escape the bin, guess you do like being down there

Was never in it in the first place mate. But, if you are the kind to look at data. Do please look at the gulf betwixt FemElezen and FemRoe, tis quite large. I would also like to add, atleast Elezen aren't culty like Roes tend to be.

This could go on forever, we all know FemRoe are the least played or liked thing in this game by a country mile because many people don't exactly like playing masculine/ overly-muscled women. Some people do, kinda meh when someone's race becomes a whole "Identity" regardless of what they like.
To anyone who doesn't like hearing that, no, that's not saying there's anything wrong with RL women who look like that and there's nothing wrong with liking that trait in women.

I'm sure we all know that Furry Face + a masculine/ overly-muscled female form is a niche inside a niche, and people who want to play a furry (the point of this race) don't have any female options yet.

Furthermore, I preach the gospel of "this mural and the queen's body are representative of what they will look like body shape wise" as that makes the most sense given the context, and I'm more than happy with that. Viera/ Highlander build + furry face, no reason not to love that for a furry unless you really like smaller ones. So I find the thought of their faces more interesting, seeing as I think the body has already been "solved".

Don't really see the point of the repeated jabs at everyone's race.

[reivaxe]

I wonder now if you have ever seen a muscular woman in your life. Maybe you're so against it because you've never seen one, which would explain why you constantly run back to Masculinity and you keep talking about the Male Form, even though we are talking about the Female Form.
You can give a woman muscle and they can still keep their femininity. You're creatively bankrupt if you can't get over this mental roadblock of muscle = Masculine, or muscular female = Man with Boobs.

Male Hrothgar are Male Roes but a little smaller. Caurcas claims this "Fixes the body": and thus is why it works.
Just do the same thing with Female Hrothgar and FemRoe.

Wut?
1-Larger muscles are a "masculine" trait. Plan and simple, it's how our society sees things. Just google "hypermasculine" if you want to see what people pushing for that manly look do. You can def have X traits and still look Y and still look beautiful. Male Viera look feminine but are still males, for example. I never said having masculine traits takes away from someone's femininity or is a bad thing at all for real women, but if we're talking about characters races that people will likely play, that's different. Nothing wrong with a furry woman looking like Henry Cavill, but turning that female into a race in an MMO and you're getting less-than-Femroe-numbers easy.

2-I'm a furry and actually want furries to have something that appeals to that aesthetic. If instead of highlanders we had, say, Lupins with highlander's bodies annnnd if instead of Lala being tiny Elezen they were tiny Mice people ANNND if instead of Draggos being C@s with scales they looked like scalies then I wouldn't care nearly as much. They would be adding more furry options in a game with a number of other furry options. But this is the 1 and only furry female option that's gonna be in this game, need to make that appealing to a good amount of people who like furries. And though Gay Bara-furries are big in the scene, that's not the case for females.

3-I've played Femroe for more than enough years to know why so much gear looks bad on them. Don't want to go through the struggles of the fat wrist fam again.

[Caurcas]

Heavensward anybody?

The playerbase, not the lore.

[Iscah]

Male Hrothgar work because they are a fixed male Roe that appeals to a furry demographic. Keyword there is "fixed", not clone with fur and animal head.

I haven't looked closely, but I thought the models were basically the same besides the heads and the hunched backs.

And if you think the mural and Queen look like what Female Hrothgar will look, then we are in agreement. But the mural goes out of it's way to show the differences in shape between them and Femroe, and the queen reflects that.

This logic does not hold.

Gunnhildr is the Roegadyn shown in contrast to the Hrothgar depicted in the mural.

Therefore her model should not be an indication of what female Hrothgar's body shape will be, except perhaps to extrapolate from it.

Also if they have simply borrowed another non-NPC model such as Sophia for practical purposes, they might not have even checked or wanted to alter it to Roegadyn proportions, rather than a deliberate choice to make her different to the standard body shape.