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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    atleast Elezen aren't culty like Roes tend to be.
    Heavensward anybody?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Heavensward anybody?
    The playerbase, not the lore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Male Hrothgar work because they are a fixed male Roe that appeals to a furry demographic. Keyword there is "fixed", not clone with fur and animal head.
    I haven't looked closely, but I thought the models were basically the same besides the heads and the hunched backs.


    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    And if you think the mural and Queen look like what Female Hrothgar will look, then we are in agreement. But the mural goes out of it's way to show the differences in shape between them and Femroe, and the queen reflects that.
    This logic does not hold.

    Gunnhildr is the Roegadyn shown in contrast to the Hrothgar depicted in the mural.

    Therefore her model should not be an indication of what female Hrothgar's body shape will be, except perhaps to extrapolate from it.

    Also if they have simply borrowed another non-NPC model such as Sophia for practical purposes, they might not have even checked or wanted to alter it to Roegadyn proportions, rather than a deliberate choice to make her different to the standard body shape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    This logic does not hold.

    Gunnhildr is the Roegadyn shown in contrast to the Hrothgar depicted in the mural.

    Therefore her model should not be an indication of what female Hrothgar's body shape will be, except perhaps to extrapolate from it.

    Also if they have simply borrowed another non-NPC model such as Sophia for practical purposes, they might not have even checked or wanted to alter it to Roegadyn proportions, rather than a deliberate choice to make her different to the standard body shape.
    Gunnhildr is in the mural as a normal Femroe, showing her form before becoming queen. The model we see in game is post-Queendom (also has glowy cat eyes) and as such looks different from a normal FemRoe and matches the shape of the mural Hrothgar.
    We're also shown a completely normal FemRoe obtaining that body after taking the Queen into herself, implying that this power is indeed changing their shape.

    Also, this isn't some monster-model. When this was data mined, miners took note of it as being an NPC that used FemRoe's scaling system and skin yet "didn't look like one".
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    Gunnhildr is in the mural as a normal Femroe, showing her form before becoming queen. The model we see in game is post-Queendom (also has glowy cat eyes) and as such looks different from a normal FemRoe and matches the shape of the mural Hrothgar.
    We're also shown a completely normal FemRoe obtaining that body after taking the Queen into herself, implying that this power is indeed changing their shape.
    Gunnhildr is just as likely in the mural as the individual person Gunnhildr – or if you want to be technical, the specific Roegadyn who would later be crowned Gunnhildr.

    Whatever you want to call her, she was seen first in mortal form in the flashback with that same body shape, and there's no reason to assume she somehow changed from before she was queen to afterwards.

    I just don't see the reason why you would point at a character who makes a whole point of not being a Hrothgar and say that she must be designed to give us a preview of what Hrothgar will look like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    The playerbase, not the lore.
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