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    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    We still don't know what they are going to look like. Male Hrothgar are niche. Female Hrothgar are also probably going to be niche. It's impossible from this point in time to say what they will be modeled off, but there is more evidence than not to suggest they will model off of femRoe.
    It's more appropriate to say that they will be built on Middie body because that's how all females are made that are not Lala due to having the same rig. Viera look incredibly identical to Elezen, but they still built them from Middie base because they mostly use Middie to make clothing and alter those measurements for everything else. (sometimes, they use Lala, which results in things that look meh on anything that's not Lala)
    As for evidence, this is all we have and if that queen body is what you're referring to then I'd think most would be happy with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    See THAT would be alot more fun to debate and have a discussion on, instead of that Mural in Bozja.
    You also have the Femroe Bozja Queen to look at, who has a unique body that matches said mural. There's really no other reason for that in the context of that story that I can see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    You also have the Femroe Bozja Queen to look at, who has a unique body that matches said mural. There's really no other reason for that in the context of that story that I can see.
    It looked like a typical FemRoe body to me, nothing really unique.
    But Im sick of looking at that thing, maybe Female Hrothgar will be that short and we'll get the stupid Au-Ra M to F height Difference.
    Like I said already, Ill be upset but it wont be the end of the world if I dont get my ideal body, but one thing that will kill it for me is how they do the face. And that Mural gives me nothing there, at least not without squinting really hard and pretending I can make something out.

    The final Product and always be different. I wanna see the Finished, In-Game Render of a 3-dimentional Character Model of the FemHrothgar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    I am actually referencing off of the male Hrothgar since that's the only Hrothgar we have in game. Viera were both incredibly close to Elezen, so that's the best guess with the available information we have.
    That's a weak base, then.
    As we see with Draggos, males and females don't actually have to mimic the same Base racial body type the other is going for. I'd also point out that from what we've seen, Male Viera look like a mix of Cat Bois and Female Viera instead of looking like male Elezen with bunny ears. So, there's no real reason to think "Gender of new Race uses X type as a base, so the other gender of X would be the base for the other gender" as we haven't seen that be the case yet.
    Like, we actually had a Female Draggo rep in the game before the males via Yugiri, so there would actually be reason to think the males would also be short if you were actively talking about the new race back then. (And the "Yugiri" we saw was actually a heavily modified Cat girl because the race wasn't ready for presentation yet. )

    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    It looked like a typical FemRoe body to me, nothing really unique.
    Nah, that's not how Femroe look at all.
    Made an album for anyone interested
    Odd that you play Femroe and can't tell. I've seen a number of people legit meme it as "lul, SE just gave the Femroe Queen a Viera body/ up-scaled middie body" so it seems clear to most.

    I wanna see the Finished, In-Game Render of a 3-dimentional Character Model of the FemHrothgar
    We all want that, but there's no point in ignoring what they have given us just because they don't look like Henry Cavill with boobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    Nah, that's not how Femroe look at all.
    Made an album for anyone interested
    Odd that you play Femroe and can't tell. I've seen a number of people legit meme it as "lul, SE just gave the Femroe Queen a Viera body/ up-scaled middie body" so it seems clear to most.
    Probly because Im too busy just playing the game instead of staring at body shapes. So if there was a difference, flew over my head because I was reading the text.
    The body still barely looks any different at all. Maybe a slightly shorter stomach, better skin texture, and they have her slouched a little bit in 2 of those pictures, Otherwise its pretty much the same body.
    I think people like to Fish for any little thing and run to the moon with it. Then placebo themselves into believing things.

    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    We all want that, but there's no point in ignoring what they have given us just because they don't look like Henry Cavill with boobs.
    Can this nonsense just stop...nobody asking for a Muscular Female character is asking for a Man with tits.
    And they haven't given us anything. Theres nothing to ignore, because there is nothing there except for a bright stylied Painting.
    We've seen what Au-Ra could have looked like, and they ended up differently in the end. Same can happen to Hrothgar Females.

    No 3-D render = We dont know how they will actually look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Can this nonsense just stop...nobody asking for a Muscular Female character is asking for a Man with tits.
    Muscular females are too intimidating to some apparently.

    Anyway, aside from their physique, I also hope femhroth would have a more "fierce" animation instead of "cutesy" ones like most of the other races' female.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiro--Tsubasa View Post
    I would actually really like it if they used the queen's model as the base to work from, or add that model to femroe through a 3rd clan or something. I bet femroe popularity would sky rocket.
    Yup, pretty much what I've been saying. They know exactly how FemRoe look. They could have easily taken any FemRoe summer set and tossed some gold stuff on it, so they did this to the Hrothgar queen infused Femroe for a reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Probly because Im too busy just playing the game instead of staring at body shapes. So if there was a difference, flew over my head because I was reading the text.
    lmao, this lame high ground BS again.
    Encase you didn't know, people saying "Fashion is the true end game" aren't memeing. Lots of people who play this game put a lot of thought into crafting glams for their character and studying what works on them and their body. 1 of the 2 threads I made on this forum was pointing out a graphical error with some glam interactions on my Femroe. I am a part of a number of FF14 FB glam communities AND I was highly invested in the story, and I've played Femroe for years so I know how they look in revealing stuff and as such I could tell with ease that the Queen didn't have a Femroe body at all as I read the text and watched the cut-scenes.

    So yeah, I'm also "just playing the game". If your definition of that implies that you're blind to such glaring physical differences, then your definition only applies to you.

    The body still barely looks any different at all. Maybe a slightly shorter stomach, better skin texture, and they have her slouched a little bit in 2 of those pictures, Otherwise its pretty much the same body.
    I think people like to Fish for any little thing and run to the moon with it. Then placebo themselves into believing things.
    If you think that body "barely looks any different" then IDK what to say other than it's strange you play FemRoe and don't register how they actually look. But ehh, you do you.


    Can this nonsense just stop...nobody asking for a Muscular Female character is asking for a Man with tits.
    That has literally been said and shown many a time by the same few regs, so I won't stop calling that out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Gunnhildr looks far too skinny. Especially her arms.

    I feel like normal Roegadyn proportions look fine, and the "un-feminine-ness" is as much about stance as body shape.
    You can feel how you want. It's perfectly fine for a woman to have w/e body shape. But if you're addressing why so much of the gear options in this game look bad on FemRoe, it's because all non-Lala focused gear was built for Middies. Different body shapes look better or worse in different styles of clothing, and this game isn't exactly great at accommodating steep deviations from the norm. That doesn't have anything to do with stance and much to do with the fact that you can't ignore someone's body shape when thinking of "things that would good on them".

    If you want to saddle the 1 option for furries with the traits that make it so much gear look bad on Femroe, that's your right. I disagree though and think the end goal should be to get more body shape options for every race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    Nah, that's not how Femroe look at all.
    Made an album for anyone interested
    Odd that you play Femroe and can't tell. I've seen a number of people legit meme it as "lul, SE just gave the Femroe Queen a Viera body/ up-scaled middie body" so it seems clear to most.
    Gunnhildr looks far too skinny. Especially her arms.

    I feel like normal Roegadyn proportions look fine, and the "un-feminine-ness" is as much about stance as body shape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Gunnhildr looks far too skinny. Especially her arms.

    I feel like normal Roegadyn proportions look fine, and the "un-feminine-ness" is as much about stance as body shape.
    Honestly wouldn't be surprised if Gunnhildr's design was from using Sophia's skeleton or something. They've done it before for an Au Ra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    Do you know what the phrase "High ground" means?
    Saying "Im too busy just playing the game instead of staring at body shapes" is an attempt to take some fictional moral high ground by insinuating that someone else has to be largely just "staring at body shapes" to notice what a Femroe does and doesn't look like.

    So, not sure why you quoted that.
    If you cannot identify the irony of claiming someone is throwing from the high ground and the bulk of your other posts, then I cannot help you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Honestly wouldn't be surprised if Gunnhildr's design was from using Sophia's skeleton or something. They've done it before for an Au Ra.
    Yeah.. that's why I never pointed at Gunnhildr. It's just a reused asset with a femroe head slapped on top. Something about it being easier to use than the player model in the game code. That model has popped up a few extra times iirc, but SE is far more fond of the succubus frame. Usually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    snip
    I am actually referencing off of the male Hrothgar since that's the only Hrothgar we have in game. Viera were both incredibly close to Elezen, so that's the best guess with the available information we have.
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