Seeing hate toward "refugees from other MMOs?"

[Puremallace]

Well this seems interesting. I guess the wave theory is correct. Blizzard sending out surveys randomly asking if you are going to leave for multiple other MMO's and they specifically list Endwalker.

https://twitter.com/Jedithtv/status/1406006774654812165

[Vahlnir]

Well this seems interesting. I guess the wave theory is correct. Blizzard sending out surveys randomly asking if you are going to leave for multiple other MMO's and they specifically list Endwalker.

https://twitter.com/Jedithtv/status/1406006774654812165

They were sending them out about a week after I quit and unsubbed completely (so roughly...2-3 weeks after launch?), and they weren't small 2 minute surveys either. Took me about 10 minutes to fill mine out. They really wanted to know what people enjoyed and hated. Clearly they ignored these surveys and stuck to their current course, but I guess they are starting to regret that. Again. lol

[Shurrikhan]

Clearly they ignored these surveys and stuck to their current course.

Because in the wake of that information, releasing a 10-boss raid, a mega-dungeon, new progression paths, further Covenant campaigns, new legendary effects, unifying/conveniencing systems for bonus difficulty dungeon runs to reduce conflicts/toxicity, PvE retuning, PvP retuning and reworks, and a new zone 9 days from now suddenly became a bad idea?

[Vahlnir]

Because in the wake of that information, releasing a 10-boss raid, a mega-dungeon, new progression paths, further Covenant campaigns, new legendary effects, PvE retuning, PvP retuning and reworks, and a new zone 8 days from now suddenly became a bad idea?

We will see how all of that actually pans out. They tend to shoot themselves in the foot pretty regularly. There's gotta be something in there that is spiteful game design, or will be. Always is. If they detect fun, it's gone. Personally, they burned me for the last time back at launch. I've kept an eye on things but I'm still largely unimpressed.

[shiroxkatsuya]

Because in the wake of that information, releasing a 10-boss raid, a mega-dungeon, new progression paths, further Covenant campaigns, new legendary effects, unifying/conveniencing systems for bonus difficulty dungeon runs to reduce conflicts/toxicity, PvE retuning, PvP retuning and reworks, and a new zone 9 days from now suddenly became a bad idea?

Is it a good amount of content? Sure. It is also way late. Still bogged down by the terrible covenant system along with a myriad of other issues. Add Blizzards woefully terrible communication skills, and all that equals me not exactly jumping for joy about 9.1. The only positive thing i will say is at least it is not August like some had rumoured. Long enough to undoubtedly do another stupid six month promo though.

On topic: I don’t really consider myself a “WoW refugee” because i have played both games for years, but i will say i have not seen really any issues aside from social media
and places like YouTube.

[Thaciscokidd]

On topic: I don’t really consider myself a “WoW refugee” because i have played both games for years, but i will say i have not seen really any issues aside from social media and places like YouTube.

I'm in this boat. Current Long time WoW and FF14 fan. I use Both games to keep myself from super burnout. As a guild officer in my WoW guild I advocate playing another game in between patches wether it be 14, PSO2, ESO, etc.

This whole chapter of the WoW vs 14 fight might get your dishearten WoW player, but the whole community vs community might just scare away the more sensible FF14/WoW fan or new fans all together. Most WoW/FF14 players are ultra cool, I did a Blood Furnace with players with FF14 names and then had the privilege of meeting them inside of FF14 afterwards. It sucks that we have to be at "war" and not coming together as MMO players in general.

[SturmChurro]

They were sending them out about a week after I quit and unsubbed completely (so roughly...2-3 weeks after launch?), and they weren't small 2 minute surveys either. Took me about 10 minutes to fill mine out. They really wanted to know what people enjoyed and hated. Clearly they ignored these surveys and stuck to their current course, but I guess they are starting to regret that. Again. lol

Do they at least pay you for the 10 minute survey?

[linayar]

Do they at least pay you for the 10 minute survey?

I think you have to pay them for the game and/or subscription to get a chance of getting a survey.

[Vahlnir]

Do they at least pay you for the 10 minute survey?

I wish, but no. lol

I think you have to pay them for the game and/or subscription to get a chance of getting a survey.

My sub hadn't lapsed yet at the time so this is probably true, though they probably had the data to see that I had indeed unsubbed.