Page 22 of 22 FirstFirst ... 12 20 21 22
Results 211 to 214 of 214
  1. #211
    Player
    Colt47's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Uldah
    Posts
    1,809
    Character
    Kan Himaa
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    a
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    No one has been arguing that a grace period similar to the normal tome events shouldn't have been done, though? Most people are stomping their feet and screaming about not knowing because of assumptions and not reading the event page. Rather than take the loss and move on, they're instead trying to blame SE for their own faults in the matter and making demands. That is what people take issue with; and that is what has been repeated ad nauseum for pages on pages by most of us, because - again - people aren't reading.

    It is solely on the fault of the user for not paying attention and reading through event notices. No company in the real world can be held accountable for someone simply not doing something. They could have a sign directly in their face at all times about it, and someone still wouldn't read. Just admit to fault, move on, don't make assumptions next time. That's all most of us are saying to these people.

    But it always falls on deaf ears because they don't take the time to fully read out responses, dislike someone disagreeing or pointing out their fault in the matter, and resort instead to just screaming more about it. At this point the same arguments and responses have played out dozens of times in this thread and it really serves no real purpose anymore.

    Regardless, I'm moving back to lurk status in this thread. Not about to be drawn back into repeating myself and the words of others for another 5 pages, whether by you or others. (Thank you for at least being polite and having a discussion, though! It's appreciated.)
    Oh no problem. Honestly this entire final stretch to the next expansion has been kind of a mixed bag. You should see the thread on Bazja with the bike reward. They basically attached it to an achievement that you can only get by winning a scratch off ticket raffle with field records. Normally the FFXIV team has been really good at preventing sunk cost fallacy situations, but the end stretch on this one has been probably one of the worst they've had in years. Eureka was problematic but no where near as bad as Bazja. My own FC barely did it and even then they are only reluctantly doing it due to relic grind.
    (1)
    Last edited by Colt47; 06-20-2021 at 12:11 AM.

  2. #212
    Player Lanadra's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2021
    Location
    Somewhere on The Source
    Posts
    666
    Character
    Alessia Adaka
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Colt47 View Post
    In real life there is precedent that going over the speed limit results in a ticket. Ignorance in that situation is not a viable excuse to get oneself out of trouble, though a lenient officer might let someone off the hook if they are new to the area and simply didn't see the sign (since people in the US seem to universally ignore speed limits and go 5+ miles over).

    They've been running these events for 3 years and every year they always rotate the moogle turn ins as a form of grace period. They didn't really do a good job telling people that it was limited and honestly even I didn't believe anyone telling me it was, because that isn't how the event worked. What they should have done if they wanted it to be different is to use a different NPC entirely and not make the items tomestones. It really just comes down to that.
    That's on you. Making an incorrect assumption instead of informing thyself. Anyway, I disagree. It was crystal clear that this wasn't normal. 1. Because it was a month after the last one. 2. Because it was expressly stated to be a fanfest special with different rules (this is the part where 'inform thyself' comes into play). 3. Because even in game the Moogle had a distinctly different mark above it. And 4. Because the tomestone pay out was double what it would usually be.

    As I've said before, at some point it ceases to be an SE issue and starts to be a player issue. At some point you're going to be expected to make an effort to inform yourself through the myriad of channels that SE has ready for you to do such with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    it's some thing that has been popping up on various forums and websites again - for god knows what reason
    don't have arguments or just want to be an a**? just call the other person a troll because they dared to use a word that can be constructed as an "insult" and any kind of response to that will make them reiterate the same houlier-than-thou attitude towards the "troll" ad infinitum
    probably some "new" reddit or twitter thing that's been making the rounds there and spilling to the forums now
    I would imagine so. It's why I disengaged, there's no real point continuing with it.
    (6)
    Last edited by Lanadra; 06-20-2021 at 02:26 AM.

  3. #213
    Player
    Colt47's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Uldah
    Posts
    1,809
    Character
    Kan Himaa
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lanadra View Post
    That's on you. Making an incorrect assumption instead of informing thyself. Anyway, I disagree. It was crystal clear that this wasn't normal. 1. Because it was a month after the last one. 2. Because it was expressly stated to be a fanfest special with different rules (this is the part where 'inform thyself' comes into play). 3. Because even in game the Moogle had a distinctly different mark above it. And 4. Because the tomestone pay out was double what it would usually be.

    As I've said before, at some point it ceases to be an SE issue and starts to be a player issue. At some point you're going to be expected to make an effort to inform yourself through the myriad of channels that SE has ready for you to do such with.
    hey guilty as charged! Didn't ever say I was innocent on that one bit. However, when you set three years precedent and then choose to suddenly change it, and you are hearing news from secondary sources saying otherwise, are you going to believe someone that isn't the primary source? Not like people haven't been burned before that way.
    (1)

  4. #214
    Player
    Eien713's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Posts
    417
    Character
    Kiyora Valeriant
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zakon View Post
    For real, guys? Why are you being so rude about this? I actually got taken off-guard by this myself. I already bought everything I wanted, but I was expecting to spend my leftovers when the event ended like every other event so far. I came on to upvote what I expected to be a thread of other people surprised that this one isn't working the same way as all the others had.

    Instead I got people who seem to be... relishing in the misfortune to take the opportunity to be arrogant and snide about it and accusing people of trolling.

    It wouldn't hurt you one bit if they re-added these tomestone items to the moogle who hangs out there at all times anyway.

    I'm not gonna lose sleep about this but if y'all wanna take this opportunity to feel superior to other people, you do you, I guess.

    I only have 1 thing to say: Thank you.
    (2)
    The Glamour Effect: That awkward moment when you realize you know FFXIV's gear pieces better than your own wardrobe X'D

Page 22 of 22 FirstFirst ... 12 20 21 22