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[Amnmaat]

They don't hit puberty when they're 18/20. They hit puberty when they become teenagers at around 13. It states it explicitly that the "they can't tell" phase is before puberty. But ya'll want to make it as if they reach 18/20 and they still can't tell their age.

Male Viera sees a teenage boy in their village and they're taking them. They're not waiting until they're a full grown man at 20.
Do you all even follow the lore?

[SturmChurro]

They don't hit puberty when they're 18/20. They hit puberty when they become teenagers at around 13. It states it explicitly that the "they can't tell" phase is before puberty. But ya'll want to make it as if they reach 18/20 and they still can't tell their age.

Male Viera sees a teenage boy in their village and they're taking them. They're not waiting until they're a full grown man at 20.
Do you all even follow the lore?

These are actually my thoughts whenever I think of that. You can pretty much say the same thing about humans and puberty too, gender roles aside. I think some of the arguments I've read for them being "androgynous" are ridiculous.

[Iscah]

But ya'll want to make it as if they reach 18/20 and they still can't tell their age.

I'd like to see where someone said that.

Anyway all the evidence (i.e. character models) points to them looking as they are at whatever age they freeze. So if that doesn't happen until 20 then that's what they look like at 20.

The FFXIV protagonists have always been treated as young adult age.

[Senn]

They don't hit puberty when they're 18/20. They hit puberty when they become teenagers at around 13. It states it explicitly that the "they can't tell" phase is before puberty. But ya'll want to make it as if they reach 18/20 and they still can't tell their age.

Male Viera sees a teenage boy in their village and they're taking them. They're not waiting until they're a full grown man at 20.
Do you all even follow the lore?

-Male and female are indistinguishable until age 13 or so. Yes.
-The differences between the sexes become clearer after puberty. Yes.
-Do male and female look more alike than different even after puberty? In my opinion, yes.

You literally can't tell them apart when they are younger, so it shouldn't be unreasonable to think that even after puberty, they would still look similar when they are older. That doesn't mean there's absolutely no differences in male and female appearances. They just look similar.

And no, that isn't like actual humans. You can still tell human male and female children apart. With the viera, you can't.

[SturmChurro]

And no, that isn't like actual humans. You can still tell human male and female children apart. With the viera, you can't.

I don't believe this. Like I said in my post, if we remove gender roles. Cut a girl's and boy's hair the same length, dress them in the same clothes, and people will have trouble distinguishing them. It's not uncommon for a boy with long hair to be mistaken as a girl, or a girl with short hair to be mistaken for a boy - this is in reference to gender roles.

[Senn]

I don't believe this. Like I said in my post, if we remove gender roles. Cut a girl and boys hair, the same length, dress them in the same clothes, and people will have trouble distinguishing them. It's not uncommon for a boy with long hair to be mistaken as a girl, or a girl with short hair to be mistaken for a boy - this is in reference to gender roles.

You can't tell younger male and female viera apart even if they are wearing no clothes. It's not the same as human children.

Q: "There is no way to distinguish between them" so that means we can't tell their sex even if they were naked?
Y: Yes, exactly
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[SturmChurro]

You can't tell younger male and female viera apart even if they are wearing no clothes. It's not the same as human children.

Q: "There is no way to distinguish between them" so that means we can't tell their sex even if they were naked?
Y: Yes, exactly
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I actually have a lot of problems with this question and answer, and is this in reference to FFXIV lore, or Ivalice lore - like in-general? If I recall correctly, Matsuno was not consulted for their final design in FFXIV. Furthermore, the answer makes literally no sense for a mammallian species. Like I'm sorry, but it doesn't. Something has to have been lost in translation, and for that matter, I don't see the necessity in asking how viera children look naked. It's off-putting.

[Senn]

I actually have a lot of problems with this question and answer, and is this in reference to FFXIV lore, or Ivalice lore - like in-general? If I recall correctly Matsuno was not consulted for their final design in FFXIV. Furthermore, the answer makes literally no sense for a mammallian species. Like I'm sorry, but it doesn't. Something has to have been lost in translation, and for that matter I don't see the necessity in asking how viera children look naked. It's off-putting.

Matsuno himself answered the question. Even if it's not 100% accurate, you could google translate the page yourself. Or you could ask a japanese speaker to translate for you. I don't know what else to tell you. It also doesn't have to make sense because

Viera are a made up race.

hur dur

[Senn]

This make sense. So sex is determined for viera by female viera developing, the males don’t change at all.

It does seem like the males do change a little bit, too. For one, their shoulders seemed a little broader compared to females in the trailer. I think the main distinguishing factor is female viera's secondary sex characteristics becoming more prominent.