Plot Procurement or Punishment?

[Valmaxian]

After experiencing the process of trying to procure a land plot, I feel compelled to say that, though I love FFXIV, that process was the worst experience I’ve ever had in any MMO I’ve ever played. The feeling of stress, the pain of ceaseless clicking on placards, and the crushing disappointment of losing on several plots was my experience, and I know that others have had it much worse. I recently transferred servers to play with friends, which is what this game is about. I lost the house I loved, and only wanted to try to rebuild it somewhere else. The housing system is inequitable, cutthroat, and cruel. If people were taking advantage of the previous system, fix your broken system, don’t punish honest players.

[Besame]

After experiencing the process of trying to procure a land plot, I feel compelled to say that, though I love FFXIV, that process was the worst experience I’ve ever had in any MMO I’ve ever played. The feeling of stress, the pain of ceaseless clicking on placards, and the crushing disappointment of losing on several plots was my experience, and I know that others have had it much worse. I recently transferred servers to play with friends, which is what this game is about. I lost the house I loved, and only wanted to try to rebuild it somewhere else. The housing system is inequitable, cutthroat, and cruel. If people were taking advantage of the previous system, fix your broken system, don’t punish honest players.

It's been said for so long in many threads but alas, it falls on deaf ears...

[Themarvin]

to spare people pain, would suggest x amount of clicks per day or per hour.

[azura84]

to spare people pain, would suggest x amount of clicks per day or per hour.

The spoiled child in me hates this idea because it just means waiting still, but I honestly can't think of a better solution.

[Valmaxian]

Five days later:
1. Out-clicked live on three properties
2. Estate transferred out of four properties (one of them I’d been clicking on the placard over the course of 12 hours, 7.5 dedicatedly, and was mocked by the person who transferred their estate)
3. Stepped away from my computer to eat, go for a walk, or sleep and lost out on…I lost count.

I understand the argument that we choose to click the placard. But we all have game content that we value, and most of that content evolves with the player and interacts with them. Dungeons and raids have reasonable timers, anc you’re constantly engaged by fight mechanics. Triple Triad and Verminion are also timed reasonably, and are interactive. You will never convince me that a random, invisible timer that can last up to 24 hours is in any way reasonable, and you don’t get to tell me that my desire for a house in the game is any less valid than another player’s desire for quality content in any other aspect of the game. If it’s part of the game it should be tested, evaluated, and of the best quality the company can muster, or it simply shouldn’t be in the game at all.

[Vahlnir]

The spoiled child in me hates this idea because it just means waiting still, but I honestly can't think of a better solution.

There's plenty of other better potential solutions out there, and they've been discussed to death on this section of the forums. I would suggestion taking a look around.

[ItMe]

[...]and they've been discussed to death on this section of the forums. I would suggestion taking a look around.

Look no further OP~

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ing-Megathread

[Shadow_Vos]

Haven't they also stated that they are changing it in Endwalker?

[ICountFrom0]

to spare people pain, would suggest x amount of clicks per day or per hour.

If this was done, 10 bots would show up, click that often, and then be replaced with 10 more bots.
The person with the bot farm would have 10 times the chance you do.

[Jojoya]

Haven't they also stated that they are changing it in Endwalker?

No. They said they've heard the player concerns about RMT and FC exploits in housing, and are taking various housing related suggestions like lotteries into consideration.

Saying something is under consideration isn't the same as saying "we are definitely doing this".

We can turn the dial back to 2018 when they told us that adding apartment size options was under consideration, and look at 2019 when they said that making alts automatic tenants of any private house owned by a character on the same world and same account was something else they might do. Neither has happened, nor been mentioned since.

At this point, it's probably better not to expect any changes to housing next expansion beyond the addition of Ishgard and the usual new furnishings.

If this was done, 10 bots would show up, click that often, and then be replaced with 10 more bots.
The person with the bot farm would have 10 times the chance you do.

Where do you and other people get the idea that bot farms are out to buy up all the houses?

What "botting" occurs in housing is usually an otherwise normal player desperate for a house that resorts to using an auto-click script to do the placard camping, not some bot consortium.

There might be RMT occurring in housing but it's not going to be getting done by the bot farms that have far more efficient and reliable ways of making gil to sell for real money. If they did see housing as a good source for RMT, there would be far more placard camping going on than what we see.

Now it would be true to say that the player using a standard subscription and has leveled the 8 characters allowed per world sufficiently to be able to purchase would have a much better chance of getting a house than the player who only has one or two character on that world with the limited click system. Even then, I doubt most players would do it because they usually want the house on a specific character they consider their main and not a character they wouldn't otherwise play.