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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    perception doesnt change what the item is

    just the chance for more of it or HQs
    Strange the meaning of perception would suggest to tell what you are gathering.

    Luck would be a better stat to use for quality of item.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Strange the meaning of perception would suggest to tell what you are gathering.

    Luck would be a better stat to use for quality of item.
    the only specific thing that the Devs have said about perception...
    And I quote:
    Perception: Makes it easier to obtain high quality items.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avraym View Post
    I have the same issue with alumen. I think theres 30 something stacks (3000+) in my retainer.

    And its barely even useful as an ingridient.

    I'm hoping new alchemist recipes will utilize it more.
    Um, have you not noticed that almost every recipe for making any kind of leather uses alumen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conradus View Post
    Um, have you not noticed that almost every recipe for making any kind of leather uses alumen?
    If you want the Head Knife of the Luminary you'll need Alumen by the truck load
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conradus View Post
    Um, have you not noticed that almost every recipe for making any kind of leather uses alumen?
    Everyone keeps saying, sell it, sell it.

    Okay, blatantly ignore that its only useful for LTW (again, does not permit its drop rate).

    It's currently selling on my server for... 120 gil.

    Given that its all purchasable from NPC's from 1280 gil (although it will never sell close to that on market ward), alumen has very limited usability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avraym View Post
    Everyone keeps saying, sell it, sell it.

    Okay, blatantly ignore that its only useful for LTW (again, does not permit its drop rate).

    It's currently selling on my server for... 120 gil.

    Given that its all purchasable from NPC's from 1280 gil (although it will never sell close to that on market ward), alumen has very limited usability.
    Yes but leather finds its way into every finished piece of gear... from Armorers plate and chain stuff to Weavers Felt and Woolen stuff... Even a lot of BSM synths have some leather in it....
    So indirectly... Alumen is useful to most crafts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avraym View Post
    Everyone keeps saying, sell it, sell it.

    Okay, blatantly ignore that its only useful for LTW (again, does not permit its drop rate).

    It's currently selling on my server for... 120 gil.

    Given that its all purchasable from NPC's from 1280 gil (although it will never sell close to that on market ward), alumen has very limited usability.
    So don't sell it then. Give it away.

    All this post reads to me is that your crying about having to sell it at the going rate because you want more for it. Well people in hell want ice water. Doesn't mean you or they, should get it.
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  8. #28
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    I think the issue is less the amount of alumen, and more the lack of ore to be honest. Working on my achievements, I've gotten more than enough alumen for my leatherworking needs, but I'm sorely lacking in iron ore for both my blacksmith and armorer.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    I think the issue is less the amount of alumen, and more the lack of ore to be honest. Working on my achievements, I've gotten more than enough alumen for my leatherworking needs, but I'm sorely lacking in iron ore for both my blacksmith and armorer.
    If its armorer... 4 iron ore makes 12 nuggets, 3 nuggets makes 12 squares
    so 4 iron ore makes 48 squares... Each armorer synth needs 2 squares... so how much Iron do you really need?
    5250 synths from 21-50 will need 10500 squares
    So you need 875 iron ore...
    Thats your entire luminary... You wanna know how fast I could get 875 iron ore?
    That is if I didn't want to just buy it because it's super cheap?
    At most... and I mean most... 2 days of mining.... and thats only because of gathering fatigue

    Id be more concerned with where you're going to fit 100 stacks of iron squares...
    or where you plan to get 57,750 earth shards
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    Attributes have a lot to do with gathering specific materials as well. For instance, rosewood logs is better gained increasing intelligence. (Which enhances the BTN's yield rate) Don't really remember which one was for MIN between VIT and MND.
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