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[DPZ2]

Bold typically means someone is emphasizing something. So I'm not sure why he would give an "in your opinion" response to that. Also it is not one's opinion that gay men shouldn't be caricatured and stereotyped into one set box.

Your first reply conveniently left out "Caricaturing gay men as yaoi boys is sick and twisted", while implying my response (which you bold-faced, and I didn't) was about the info in bold, which, from context, it was not.

You did indeed misunderstand, and are still rather deliberate in your failure to let the second explanation stand.

How do you know that my response [I quoted the full post] was primarily to the 'sick and twisted'? I used those exact same words with reference to the other gay stereotype - one which the poster appears to embody, as his avatar is that of a Roegadyn.

As for the 'fan fiction' comment - his post was in direct response to a trans person's comment about writing yaoi fanfiction. My second response (to your apparent dismay) addressed why the term 'yaoi' finds itself covering a multitude of genres that are not 'caricatures of gay men' but the West still uses it to cover everything.

I'll allow your confusion to stand, because anything anyone else says doesn't seem to make a difference. Hope you're enjoying it.

[TroySoFab]

Your first reply conveniently left out "Caricaturing gay men as yaoi boys is sick and twisted", while implying my response (which you bold-faced, and I didn't) was about the info in bold, which, from context, it was not.

Hmm... then maybe you should have been more specific? "Gay people don't exist for your yaoi fanfiction or fetishism" was the bolded part of his statement. Ativan bolded it in his post, and we can all agree that bolding something means you are emphasizing it. If you didn't want to be taken out of context maybe you should have done a better job at articulating yourself. However, seeing all/most gay men as just cute yaoi boys is derogatory and demeaning to them. Why? Because Gay people don't exist for your yaoi fanfiction or fetishism.

You did indeed misunderstand, and are still rather deliberate in your failure to let the second explanation stand.

No, I think I understand what you said pretty well.

How do you know that my response [I quoted the full post] was primarily to the 'sick and twisted'? I used those exact same words with reference to the other gay stereotype - one which the poster appears to embody, as his avatar is that of a Roegadyn.

Well I hope it was, since you just tried convincing me a few sentences ago that it was to that. Maybe you are the one who is misunderstanding yourself? Also just because someone plays a muscular character does not mean they are doing it for some sexual reason. I can't believe I actually have to say this.

As for the 'fan fiction' comment - his post was in direct response to a trans person's comment about writing yaoi fanfiction. My second response (to your apparent dismay) addressed why the term 'yaoi' finds itself covering a multitude of genres that are not 'caricatures of gay men' but the West still uses it to cover everything.

Not sure why that person's gender identity matters here? Trans people can make insensitive and derogatory remarks the same way non-trans people can. I don't really care about the minutia of what yaoi may or may not mean. That's not the point. The point of the statement was that gay people do not exist to simply be fetisized by other people; Gay, straight, trans, etc.

I'll allow your confusion to stand, because anything anyone else says doesn't seem to make a difference. Hope you're enjoying it.

Nope, no confusion here. It seems like you're the one who misunderstood, me and yourself.