Congratulations Square Enix! FF4 surpasses WoW this year. (Source inside)

[Shougun]

This games population peaked at around 1.4 million some time after SHB launch, but averages a population ranging from 800k-1mil active subs.

Their supposed "daily active players" is well over double the active player count in Lucky Bancho's latest census.

Could be counting bots (and Lucky tries to doge that by putting barriers to entry on it, which would lower Lucky's, when comparing to stuff that doesn't try to account for low effort / brand new / bot accounts), for both games, when not setting up limits on what is accounted for, I'm sure that does some beautiful inflation, probably more so for WoW. That said I doubt FFXIV is beating WoW (I imagine RMT services are larger for that game, just a hunch, haven't bothered to try and quantify it though), but like in my first person, I think, if you take this which seems to be some sort of voodoo math on community engagement (maybe just reddit if I'm reading what others say), and then other stats that are more transparent / less hidden voodoo nonsense, still even, FFXIV is trending seems to be in a positive and substantial player in the market. As for people comparing back in the haydays- I doubt anything is ever going to compare to WoW back in it's prime, including WoW itself lol.

[LittleImp]

Could be counting bots, for both games I'm sure that does some beautiful inflation, probably more so for WoW. That said I doubt FFXIV is beating WoW, but like in my first person, I think, if you take this which seems to be some sort of voodoo math on community engagement (maybe just reddit if I'm reading what others say), and then other stats that are more transparent / less hidden voodoo nonsense, still even, FFXIV is trending seems to be in a positive and substantial player in the market. As for people comparing back in the haydays- I doubt anything is ever going to compare to WoW back in it's prime.

That website uses sentiment analysis to project populations, which essentially boils down to pulling google statistics and scraping what they can from social media. This is an inherently flawed approach, as evidenced by the fact that dead games with no servers will crop up with phantom populations any time an article about them appears, or there's some social media discussion about them.

The FFXIV community is hyperactive on social media, so naturally our population is significantly overrepresented in that kind of methodology.