Short, Masculine Hairstyles

[Roeshel]

You insinuated that gay people exist just for fetishization and fanfiction by saying "in your opinion". Nobody said anything about being able to write same sex fanfictions, you are free to write whatever you want. But other people do not exist simply for fetishes.

No, he didn't. This is what your brain understood.

[TroySoFab]

No, he didn't. This is what your brain understood.

If I misunderstood his intent its because his words could lead one to believe otherwise. He said this

In your opinion, yes, I suppose that would be so.

In my opinion, the "approved male stereotype" in Japanese manga written by gay men is built like a Roegadyn but still with a sick and twisted attitudes around domination and a culture of what I call non-consent.

I prefer my men to be built like cat bois because I'm attracted to them. And I'll write whatever fiction about them that I like, without giving a thought to your own particular twisted ideas of appropriate male sexuality.

Now, what, in particular, do you have to say about short, masculine hairstyles that isn't the apparent gay male stereotype in the United States of America at this time?
Personally, I like longer hair, but then again, I started growing out my hair when the Stonewall Riots and First Moon Landing were Current Events, and I'm letting it grow longer these days as well.

The problem with longer male hairstyles in-game is clipping. I want to look good in gear, and if I have to stare at the back of my head in-game, at least I want to see it all, not 1/2 of it cut off by the hood of the current gear set.

In response to this

Gay people don't exist for your yaoi fanfiction or fetishism. Caricaturing gay men as yaoi boys is sick and twisted.

Bold typically means someone is emphasizing something. So I'm not sure why he would give an "in your opinion" response to that. Also it is not one's opinion that gay men shouldn't be caricatured and stereotyped into one set box.

[DPZ2]

Bold typically means someone is emphasizing something. So I'm not sure why he would give an "in your opinion" response to that. Also it is not one's opinion that gay men shouldn't be caricatured and stereotyped into one set box.

Your first reply conveniently left out "Caricaturing gay men as yaoi boys is sick and twisted", while implying my response (which you bold-faced, and I didn't) was about the info in bold, which, from context, it was not.

You did indeed misunderstand, and are still rather deliberate in your failure to let the second explanation stand.

How do you know that my response [I quoted the full post] was primarily to the 'sick and twisted'? I used those exact same words with reference to the other gay stereotype - one which the poster appears to embody, as his avatar is that of a Roegadyn.

As for the 'fan fiction' comment - his post was in direct response to a trans person's comment about writing yaoi fanfiction. My second response (to your apparent dismay) addressed why the term 'yaoi' finds itself covering a multitude of genres that are not 'caricatures of gay men' but the West still uses it to cover everything.

I'll allow your confusion to stand, because anything anyone else says doesn't seem to make a difference. Hope you're enjoying it.

[TroySoFab]

Your first reply conveniently left out "Caricaturing gay men as yaoi boys is sick and twisted", while implying my response (which you bold-faced, and I didn't) was about the info in bold, which, from context, it was not.

Hmm... then maybe you should have been more specific? "Gay people don't exist for your yaoi fanfiction or fetishism" was the bolded part of his statement. Ativan bolded it in his post, and we can all agree that bolding something means you are emphasizing it. If you didn't want to be taken out of context maybe you should have done a better job at articulating yourself. However, seeing all/most gay men as just cute yaoi boys is derogatory and demeaning to them. Why? Because Gay people don't exist for your yaoi fanfiction or fetishism.

You did indeed misunderstand, and are still rather deliberate in your failure to let the second explanation stand.

No, I think I understand what you said pretty well.

How do you know that my response [I quoted the full post] was primarily to the 'sick and twisted'? I used those exact same words with reference to the other gay stereotype - one which the poster appears to embody, as his avatar is that of a Roegadyn.

Well I hope it was, since you just tried convincing me a few sentences ago that it was to that. Maybe you are the one who is misunderstanding yourself? Also just because someone plays a muscular character does not mean they are doing it for some sexual reason. I can't believe I actually have to say this.

As for the 'fan fiction' comment - his post was in direct response to a trans person's comment about writing yaoi fanfiction. My second response (to your apparent dismay) addressed why the term 'yaoi' finds itself covering a multitude of genres that are not 'caricatures of gay men' but the West still uses it to cover everything.

Not sure why that person's gender identity matters here? Trans people can make insensitive and derogatory remarks the same way non-trans people can. I don't really care about the minutia of what yaoi may or may not mean. That's not the point. The point of the statement was that gay people do not exist to simply be fetisized by other people; Gay, straight, trans, etc.

I'll allow your confusion to stand, because anything anyone else says doesn't seem to make a difference. Hope you're enjoying it.

Nope, no confusion here. It seems like you're the one who misunderstood, me and yourself.