Popular WoW content creator Bellular is praising FF14.

[FoxyAreku]

If Bellular makes it to endgame I guarantee he's gonna turn negative. This game just doesn't have the endgame a long time WoW player would expect.

[van_arn]

If Bellular makes it to endgame I guarantee he's gonna turn negative. This game just doesn't have the endgame a long time WoW player would expect.

He's more the sort that won't care all that much about the bleeding edge after he's made it through the story. He'll be too distracted finding copies of encyclopedia eorzea.

[Vahlnir]

If Bellular makes it to endgame I guarantee he's gonna turn negative. This game just doesn't have the endgame a long time WoW player would expect.

Maybe not what a long time WoW player like myself expected when I joined during ARR launch, but it was certainly what I needed. I just came to appreciate it more a few years later as WoW began circling the drain and I no longer felt like I could progress my character in a meaningful way.

[Driavna]

Maybe not what a long time WoW player like myself expected when I joined during ARR launch, but it was certainly what I needed. I just came to appreciate it more a few years later as WoW began circling the drain and I no longer felt like I could progress my character in a meaningful way.

Unless I misunderstood you I have to say that in FFXIV character progression is almost no existent and "fully reset" with each major patch. I personally don't mind since I play for collecting stuff.

[Vahlnir]

Unless I misunderstood you I have to say that in FFXIV character progression is almost no existent and "fully reset" with each major patch. I personally don't mind since I play for collecting stuff.

Yeah, I think there was a bit of a misunderstanding here, but it's okay. WoW's gear progression works similarly, they just make it painful for more casual players to get decently geared. Gotta look after them hardcore raiders because that's all the dev team really cares about. I used to raid pretty hard back in Wrath in Cata, but I've been pretty casual for a long, long time now. I still like to gear my character to the best of my ability though. In FF XIV, I can progress my character weekly and always feel like I'm getting somewhere. I wouldn't say it is fully resets each patch though. You just get better gear, and the gear you had been using can be used for your retainers or glamour. Or both. Gear in this game is never truly irrelevant, though I suppose that might be subjective depending on the overall worth of gear to the individual. If it is "just a number" to some (which I think is a flawed way of thinking) then I guess I could see it. For me, I see every set of gear as an investment. You get the gear, upgrade it, make it look good (if you like the look if it is customizable at all) and then move on to the next set.

[Liam_Harper]

If Bellular makes it to endgame I guarantee he's gonna turn negative. This game just doesn't have the endgame a long time WoW player would expect.

Sadly neither does WoW anymore.

[OrigNN]

If Bellular makes it to endgame I guarantee he's gonna turn negative. This game just doesn't have the endgame a long time WoW player would expect.

What does a WoW-Player expect? A Weekly Login for the raids and mythic+ ? Or the daily Daily-Grind? As a long time WoW-Player, I really miss that... not.

[Jojoya]

If Bellular makes it to endgame I guarantee he's gonna turn negative. This game just doesn't have the endgame a long time WoW player would expect.

Getting something other than what you expect isn't automatically a negative experience.

If you're only into end game raiding/PvP, it would likely be a problem (that would be WoW content creators like Asmongold and Preach). If you appreciate other content within the game (which Bellular would), it can be a welcome surprise because now you've got time to delve into that other content.

Not every player and every content creator is about raiding. It's only going to look that way to those who only follow the content creators who are.

[Shurrikhan]

If you're only into end game raiding/PvP, it would likely be a problem (that would be WoW content creators like Asmongold and Preach). If you appreciate other content within the game (which Bellular would), it can be a welcome surprise because now you've got time to delve into that other content.

True. Preach/Mike and Asmongold/Zack, as much as they can enjoy meta-content (Asmongold's hosted transmog or mount events) or slightly more casual runs (assuming one can still expect others to know the basics of play like holding threat, interrupting, not standing in bad, or otherwise using their full kit), make it explicitly clear that they care mostly just about core combat content in their MMOs. Bellular/Michael, on the other hand, seems much more open to most stuff (even if he, too, won't much care about, say, pet battles), and while he's no less upset with time-wasting practices/gating, etc., on principle, he does seem like he takes more of a personal/concrete opportunity cost from those practices and would be even more appreciative of things being a bit... simplified, through what else he could use that time on.