Popular WoW content creator Bellular is praising FF14.

[Shurrikhan]

Isn't there a lot of anti-alliance/anti-horde stuff tho? Idk.

Though there are exceptions, it's mostly just joking/memes.

[Imora]

Asmongold's community is toxic as Hate. No thanks.

[Puremallace]

Yeah. It doesn't help that a portion of the FFXIV community is enraged by the strangest things. Simply liking or disliking specific characters in the story is enough to result in a lot of vitriol. The sort that I very rarely experienced during my time playing WOW and ESO. I've received the same reaction for suggesting that from time to time maybe glamour and hairstyles can be designed with a male character in mind first and foremost.

ok...goto the WoW forums and tell them you like Sylvannas. Tell me how that goes for you. You want to sit here and tell me the WoW community does not get enraged about that topic? Hell it turns into a whole social justice debate real quick.

I do not find it to be a negative that a majority of the FF14 community actually understands the story and gets a general idea of what is going on. If this was Witcher 3 or Mass Effect noone would question this level of passion but good god make it an MMO and people get confused.

Back when SWToR was super popular on release they were hyper defensive about the story as they actually cared about it. WoW players really do not defend the story because it has become so god awfully used as a way to restrict you. You become friends with every covenant and help them BUTTT are Covenant locked.

Horde and Alliance leaders are constantly working together but the factions are still separated after the war ended years ago. Jaina went from helping the Horde to committing genocide?!?!? then back to being friends like nothing happened!

Sylvannas burns down Teldrassil and when asked why they tell us it will be explained in Shadowlands but is never mentioned ever again. The Jailer who has apparently been pulling the strings in WoW SINCE the first war is never mentioned until now??!?!? He was secretly telling Arthas what to do but Arthas never bothered to mention that.

People do not defend WoW lore like they do in ESO or FF14 because it is so slapped together with duct tape it makes no more sense. Like how did Azeroth magically stop bleeding?!??! Is that no longer a problem?? What about that big sword!??!?! Here is another one. Why hasn't the scourge utterly destroyed Azeroth while you have been in the Shadowlands with no helm of domination?

Everytime I get started on it I get enraged at how many holes the lore has in it that they have remotely cared to address.

[Theodric]

Maybe it's more of a thing on the American servers, then. I played on the European servers however - and they were and probably still are region locked.

I like following the story of pretty much any game I play, though I don't lose myself in the emotional investment I may or not have with specific characters. Which, I suppose, is where the rub occurs - I don't go through life 'literally screaming' because X, Y or Z happened in a story.

Equally, I don't care if a character does 'terrible' things as I ultimately just want to be entertained.

[Shurrikhan]

Jaina went from helping the Horde to committing genocide?!?!?

...Wait...

Enraged, she threatens to flood Orgrimmar, immediately after roughly half of her people are murdered and her home destroyed by the Horde's mana bomb (effectively, a nuke). She does not go through with it.

There have been ~14 genocides across the mainstream Warcraft history thus far. Jaina was part of none of them.

Blood elves would tend to disagree with you...

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Purge_of_Dalaran

I play Horde. I main a Blood Elf. Expulsion of a group suspected (and later proven) to have harbored traitors is not genocide. Raising arms against your former heads of government when your charter is terminated and the blood that ensues is not genocide. The purge was in the literal sense, an expulsion and exclusion order. It only turned bloody when those expelled rose against their former authorities.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Isn't there a lot of anti-alliance/anti-horde stuff tho? Idk.

Every community is going to have things it gets up in arms over.

The XIV one is just bad around gatekeeping for some reason.

You have to like the story, you have to do raids, you have to do this, that and the other.

If you aren't good that means you are casual (it doesn't) if you don't raid you aren't hard-core (also no, it doesn't mean that)


The community here has weird definitions for things I still don't understand even after 10 years of being part of it.

It’s actually really bad tbh. The scottzone situation is what opened my eyes to how toxic the ff14 community is. It’s a really bad kind of toxic imo because they give the false pretense of it’s one of the friendliest communities ever, but give any critique to the game and you’re either marked as a troll, immensely hated, or both. In his case he was sent death threats and literally forced to quit the game. All because he said there should be more raid floors lmao.

[Shiro--Tsubasa]

It’s actually really bad tbh. The scottzone situation is what opened my eyes to how toxic the ff14 community is. It’s a really bad kind of toxic imo because they give the false pretense of it’s one of the friendliest communities ever, but give any critique to the game and you’re either marked as a troll, immensely hated, or both. In his case he was sent death threats and literally forced to quit the game. All because he said there should be more raid floors lmao.

it is one of the friendliest communities in the MMO scene. Just because it is the friendliest doesn't mean it is without its own toxic elements. Unfortunately toxicity is almost impossible to completely remove and will always be an issue in every fandom/community. I've jumped from gw2, wow, etc over the years and I always hear about an influencer getting harassed by toxic elements for one reason or another. It is something that comes with being an influencer in an anonymous filled space.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

It’s actually really bad tbh. The scottzone situation is what opened my eyes to how toxic the ff14 community is. It’s a really bad kind of toxic imo because they give the false pretense of it’s one of the friendliest communities ever, but give any critique to the game and you’re either marked as a troll, immensely hated, or both. In his case he was sent death threats and literally forced to quit the game. All because he said there should be more raid floors lmao.

I never watched his video, but I'm very curious on the circumstances. There tends to be a lot of he said she said with these. If the video isn't up anymore it's hard to see what happened.

[KizuyaKatogami]

it is one of the friendliest communities in the MMO scene. Just because it is the friendliest doesn't mean it is without its own toxic elements. Unfortunately toxicity is almost impossible to completely remove and will always be an issue in every fandom/community. I've jumped from gw2, wow, etc over the years and I always hear about an influencer getting harassed by toxic elements for one reason or another. It is something that comes with being an influencer in an anonymous filled space.

It’s not only influencers tho. I see it all over here,reddit, twitter. Anyone who has an opinion gets bashed for it and people can’t handle obvious criticism for the game.

[Driavna]

It’s not only influencers tho. I see it all over here,reddit, twitter. Anyone who has an opinion gets bashed for it and people can’t handle obvious criticism for the game.

This pretty much the standard for any community. If anything just show that FFXIV is not special at all. This game just happen to be particularly sanitised compared to other MMO's, leading to certain players to be in a constant power trip.

Also, this forum, twitter, reddit and others do not represent the community at all. Most are just regular folk chilling and having fun in-game and will never use any of the mentioned ones.