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    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by korekera View Post
    Good luck convincing these people to include any sort of diversity. ^^
    1. I'm not asking.
    2. I'm suggesting more dark skin characters, not "diversity;" that word is just as dirty as "poc." Both far left terms which mean nothing.
    3. They already added them, I just want more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    1. I'm not asking.
    2. I'm suggesting more dark skin characters, not "diversity;" that word is just as dirty as "poc." Both far left terms which mean nothing.
    3. They already added them, I just want more.
    How is "PoC" a far left term? No judgment here. I'm just curious!
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    THERE ARE MULTIPLE RACES IN THE GAME LIKE HYUR, MIQOT, ROEGAYDN ALREADY
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    Y'shtola is tanned she did get a bit paler in recent time but generally she is tan and seeker of sun are generally of color having a tan
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    This thread, is why I do not like this games player base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilitaryVet123 View Post
    The Bozjan questline was a refreshing breath of scintillating fresh air because of the beautiful plot twist, a highlight of the inequities of revolutions and class divide, and also because of the inclusion of Lilja.



    When I saw Lilja at first, I thought she's simply going to be left to the wayside and be an extremely minor character. But nope, she was one of the core characters in the Bozjan storyline, serving as Garlond Ironworks' liason in Bozja and offering critical engineering insight. She helped with the assault on Castrum Lacus Litore and helped us confirm that that was indeed where Mikoto was held. In sum, she was a major character in the Bozjan story. She is part of the "Bozjan Scions".

    And she also happens to be black, with a dope as hell sense of fashion.

    So when are we going to see the same in the main scenario quest?

    Now let's look at the scions. See if you can spot any commonality?



    Not only are they all white, they also have white/blond hair. The WoL is the only exception, and canonically (according to promotional videos) he's also white. I didn't think much of this at first, but after witnessing Lilja, I realized that I had become complacent when it came to the MSQ. The majority of the protagonists in every single expansion for the MSQ has been white or white-skinned. There are a few secondary characters who are PoC, like Raubahn, but they are few and far in between and none of them are primary characters. Is it not weird that, despite having the Scion headquarters being set up in the Waking Sands, an arid desert with scorching sun rays, all primary Scions are not even tan? This boils down to the colorism that stealthily encompasses East Asian and Western culture. Without even realizing it, we design characters to be white or light skinned by default. That's why when there's no pushback, we end up with a cast that is entirely white or light skinned. But it doesn't have to be this way. Lilja shows that if we are conscious about how we design characters we can make the cast of a game inclusive and more realistic.

    With the upcoming 6.0 expansion all but certain to take place in Garlemald, I have a suggestion for Square Enix. Let Gaius Baelsar become a Scion. This not only completes his redemptive arc, but it also adds, finally, a main scion that is a PoC. If you look at the picture of the Scions it just does not look like a group of diverse origins even though it should be, as it is a supranational organization. Instead, what we have now looks incredibly bland and homogeneous. This is not diversity for diversity's sake. This is diversity for better story telling, better immersion, and better inclusivity.
    I think we had enough of representation. We need more characterization in our stories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    This thread, is why I do not like this games player base.
    You are not alone in that, trust me.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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    Quote Originally Posted by korekera View Post
    Good luck convincing these people to include any sort of diversity. ^^
    The fact that there is any pushback to this idea at all is why these forums feature some of the actual worst people playing FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeverianLyonesse View Post
    The fact that there is any pushback to this idea at all is why these forums feature some of the actual worst people playing FFXIV.
    Not really, this is a fantasy game with different races of people already in the game. Yet we still want to try and push real world social agendas into a video game. Please stop.
    On top of that it is a Japanese game, where they do not care about such petty Western ideologies.
    When you really put it in perspective the Scions are already made of different races and different ethnic groups of those races. So to narrow everything down to the color of the character is actually the exact opposite of what you think you are advocating. It is ignorant and it is wrong. So maybe you should think about who is the actual worst in this scenario.

    So again. Please stop.
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    Last edited by IdowhatIwant; 03-30-2022 at 09:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukha View Post
    *sighs* I know this is a troll thread, I know I should ignore it and not feed you the attention you crave. But for this and only this I am obligated to agree with you.
    I'd rather him be the x-force of the scions.
    Dark ops WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    I agree with more PoC in game.
    Where is my blue skinned ginger catgirl!
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    Last edited by hagare; 03-30-2022 at 11:28 AM.

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