Healers Angry when PLD Clemencies

[Artemiz]

Alexander rates from 2017 and current rates are not comparable. Cross-world party finder only came out during the final tier of Alexander, which made a massive difference to savage accessibility.

There are differences in the level of interest in savage even within regions and even between different worlds, so not all of NA is the same.

Regardless, Savage clears are in the minority and what has to be in savage doesn't reflect the rest of the game. It's a completely different environment.

[BaconBits]

The exact percentage of health they do it at honestly isn't as important as the rate their HP is declining versus the rate the healer is restoring it.

But then, good healers would know that already.

Pretty sure the percentage of health does indeed matter. If a Paladin is panicking and using clemency before they even come close to hitting 50% HP, welp the White Mage isn't going to get the full bang for their buck with Benediction which fully restored health, the Astro isn't going to get the full potency of Essential Dignity which scales higher the lower a target's health is, and the Scholar will regret even bothering to waste an aetherflow charge/recitation to place an Excogitation on said Panicky Paladin, an ability that only activates when the target drops below 50‰ HP. And that's not even touching on the other abilities healers have dedicated to healing or reducing damage that can be weaved in between their casts.

Meanwhile, every time a Paladin casts Clemency when not under the effect of the upgraded Requiescat they lose the ability to block during the casting animation. Every time a Paladin casts Clemency during their Requiescat window, that's a Holy Spirit/Holy Circle tossed to the wayside. Even Requiescat itself is affected since not only is it's potency affected by how much mp you have at the time it's used, but if you accidentally use it when under 80% mp, welp there goes your 50% potency increase, your instant casts, and your Confiteor.

The only time to use Clemency without restraint is when something has gone horribly wrong (i.e the 2 healers in your alliance have gone down and you're desperately trying to heal up everyone before/after a fat raidwide while hoping to Hydaelyn that someone from another alliance notices and helps you out).

[ZedxKayn]

Regardless, Savage clears are in the minority and what has to be in savage doesn't reflect the rest of the game. It's a completely different environment.

The way kits are used in harder content is in a much more optimal way that in casual content, you can play at savage level in casual content, but not casual level in savage content, the OP asked how to use clemency so yeah people are going to talk about the best way to use it (or not) regardless of the type of content.

[Caurcas]

This was by February, it will be higher now

Man, NA is embarrassingly bad especially my server Siren. Big sad.

[SturmChurro]

Man, NA is embarrassingly bad especially my server Siren. Big sad.

I've just never been big into PvE, frankly. If this game had good PvP, I'd play PvP. Unfortunately, that isn't the case, so I do what I'd do otherwise: glamour endgame, midcore PvE, some collecting, etc.

[kaynide]

...

Nothing to do with ongoing talk, just wanna make sure I understand the chart; I'm on Tonberry, so it means:

The right end, where we see 97.7%, that's just saying "Of those that did E4S, 97.7% have also cleared E8S, 23.9% E12S ?

And what is EmX?

Otherwise, that's awesome that 20ish% are clearing savage. And also interesting to see what certain servers might cater to.

[ZedxKayn]

Nothing to do with ongoing talk, just wanna make sure I understand the chart; I'm on Tonberry, so it means:

The right end, where we see 97.7%, that's just saying "Of those that did E4S, 97.7% have also cleared E8S, 23.9% E12S ?

And what is EmX?

Otherwise, that's awesome that 20ish% are clearing savage. And also interesting to see what certain servers might cater to.

I'm not sure about EmX either, but for the other percentages, yes.

So whenever people claim that only 5% of the playerbase does savage, they forget to (or choose not to sometimes) precise, on Crystal. And do note this only counts the last floors of each tier, the lower the floor is, the higher the clear % is!

[kaynide]

I don't do the endgame stuff, but it's always good to know what's going on in the game as a whole.

I'd be interested to know what the average % of those who just did a 1 and done (like me for non-savage) vs those that do it weekly or regularly.

I guess people who do it enough to actually clear it want to do it regularly enough to milk all the gear they can get out of it (I mean, they put in the effort so why not).

Is it a fair assumption that the 20% who have cleared it are also doing it regularly while it's current?

[Frizze]

And what is EmX?

Just a guess as this isnt my data or anything, but im thinking its Emerald Extreme. The chart was tracking mount ownership as a proxy for clear rates, and emerald does also have a mount available. Though it only takes 8 clears for the full static to get the savage mount, and the drop rate for the gwibber is much worse then that.

[ZedxKayn]

I don't do the endgame stuff, but it's always good to know what's going on in the game as a whole.

I'd be interested to know what the average % of those who just did a 1 and done (like me for non-savage) vs those that do it weekly or regularly.

I guess people who do it enough to actually clear it want to do it regularly enough to milk all the gear they can get out of it (I mean, they put in the effort so why not).

Is it a fair assumption that the 20% who have cleared it are also doing it regularly while it's current?

Looking at ffxivcollect's achievement section, 16% cleared the last floor of this tier once, 13% 5 times or more, and 7% 10 times or more. This doesn't count everyone who cleared I assume but it gives a rough idea about the disparity between how players go about clearing a tier.