Ragnarok: Only EU?

[Jinko]

I'm only really interested in the number of UK players moving to Ragnarok. It's just not viable joining a French, German or Spanish LS because they will expect you to understand their language. They are not going to speak using the auto translate for the few people who can't understand French or whatever, it's just not viable. If this kind of thing was the norm then I'd have joined a Japanese LS on launch day because their play time was more suited to me than US.

I've partied with French and Japanese players before and while it works in an EXP environment I just can't see such a barrier working in an end-game environment. There isn't enough time in a difficult fight to construct auto translate statements and while some may be able understand English they may not be confident speaking it over vent.

Have you considered starting your own LS when you move there, I'd be willing to join if I do move over.

Fact of the matter is there are large pockets of GMT (myself included) and EU players on several servers who want nothing to do with this. Not because so much of people won't be speaking English, but people like the eclectic nature of FF games. They want to play with people from all over the world and stamping 10 as an EU server dumbs that down.

I don't really think thats the big deal, FFXIV and FFXI players tend to make this out to be a sales point of these games and it really isn't, the majority only play with JP players a very small percentage of the time. (and almost never end game unless they know the language)

There isn't a great difference playing with someone from the UK or US really, nor that of an english speaking EU person.

I think the biggest reason people won't join the EU server is because they have grown accustomed to their enviroment and friends, and we all know how much people dislike change, add that to the uncertainty of the servers population and its obvious why people don't want to transfer there.

If thats what you want then it should not have been coined as "the EU server". Giving it that moniker automatically gives it the divide that many people don't want. There should have been several EU friendly servers - suggested - not branded.

Last I checked it's "Recommended EU server" its not "EU only", Yoshida has already said many times that it isn't EU only and that is open to everyone, I feel as if you are purposefully trying to dissuade people based on your bias.

[Vackashken]

There isn't a great difference playing with someone from the UK or US really, nor that of an english speaking EU person.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Last I checked it's "Recommended EU server" its not "EU only", Yoshida has already said many times that it isn't EU only and that is open to everyone, I feel as if you are purposefully trying to dissuade people based on your bias.

The purpose of it being called EU is to attract EU people there. Now and future people joining. Dissuade people from what? Pigeon holing the populace and its future inhabitants onto one so called EU server? Then yes, I am biased in the fact that I believe there should be several servers that are EU friendly. Again, the game is about meeting people from all over the world.

[Jinko]

The purpose of it being called EU is to attract EU people there. Now and future people joining. Dissuade people from what? Pigeon holing the populace and its future inhabitants onto one so called EU server? Then yes, I am biased in the fact that I believe there should be several servers that are EU friendly. Again, the game is about meeting people from all over the world.

Thats's the point though SE have done their homework and know that the EU population isn't big enough to spread over multiple EU server.

If that were the case we wouldn't even need an EU server to begin with.

People dont mind being pigeon holded if it means they can play during their prime time, obviously you and others do, but some of us don't.

As the post above said their are 9 other servers to choose if you would prefer to be on an international server.

[Xenor]

I must say this temporary tag thing is a big issue for me. V2 is when there will be a large increase in players, if it's just going to turn into another international server with EU spread everywhere then I'll be no better off on Ragnarok. Even when XIV was released and had a lot of players there still wasn't an EU linkshell on Wutai so spreading the EU population thin again at V2 doesn't give me much hope.

On the other hand if I moved to a completely different server and joined an EU linkshell there I'd be totally screwed if the linkshell died because all new EU players would be going to Ragnarok. People quit over time so one could assume such linkshells will become more international over time until there's not enough EU players left to schedule events in EU prime time.

The whole thing is a mess. It's tempting to just stop playing until V2 and see what the situation is.

Why would you have to speak french or german to play with fr/de people?
Back in FF11, i was in an EU linkshell with a mix of Fr/De/Uk and some NA people. Everyone was speaking english. We were able to accomplish endgame content without a problem.

The purpose of this server is not to have french LS on one side and german ls on another side.

Im french and i will maybe have a social LS with french speaking only, but for doing endgame, i expect to be on a EU ls with people from all over the globe, and of course we will all speak english.

I think people will speak what the majority of their LS speak. I mean if you joined an LS dominated by Japanese players would you expect them to speak English (or French) or would you accept that you're the minority and they should expect you to have an understanding of Japanese?

Ideally you'd get a mixed EU LS with everyone speaking a common language (English) but you're likely to get the population dividing themselves into native language LSs when there's enough to do so, even for end-game events. If 90% of a linkshell is French I could never join it and expect them to speak English, it wouldn't be right. Similarly you wouldn't join an LS with 90% UK players and expect them to speak French. If it was closer to 50% then fair enough it could go either way. I've heard of German, Spanish, French LSs moving to Ragnarok but not any mixed LSs.

Have you considered starting your own LS when you move there, I'd be willing to join if I do move over.

I'm not sure I would want to. The time involved to run a top LS is huge and I'd want it to be the best. I'd lose interest if it didn't attract enough people with that mindset.