Been in jail the past few days.

[Caurcas]

Caurcas was making an inside joke about how they should report people more often because in actuality they don't care about reporting anyone but it seems everyone is so uppity and ready to go when anyone says anything remotely close to criticism.

Me personally the report button has become a feel good button, someone does anything to remotely annoy you? Report. You can probably get them on something.

I've did that once because someone kicked me from a farm party because I didn't pass on a weapon for someone the party lead was simping for. WHM asks me as SCH to pass AST emerald weapon, I say "No." only thing I said in the 5 runs I was there, dude gets uppity and hits me up with "Wow, rude." and kicks me directly afterwards.

Eh I am only half joking. Off topic and general chatter in novice network is fine. Socialization is rad. However, some "mentors" have taken to what they call novice network after dark on Siren. It basically turns the chat into borderline or straight erp type topics that are very inappropriate. Yet this is fine to them, but they will boot you if you suggest someone should do their job quest for key skills. Community is borked in this game, like a special kind of awful.

[Jojoya]

Eh I am only half joking. Off topic and general chatter in novice network is fine. Socialization is rad. However, some "mentors" have taken to what they call novice network after dark on Siren. It basically turns the chat into borderline or straight erp type topics that are very inappropriate. Yet this is fine to them, but they will boot you if you suggest someone should do their job quest for key skills. Community is borked in this game, like a special kind of awful.

Don't comment about it in NN. Just straight up report it to the GMs once it happens.

[SturmChurro]

Eh I am only half joking. Off topic and general chatter in novice network is fine. Socialization is rad. However, some "mentors" have taken to what they call novice network after dark on Siren. It basically turns the chat into borderline or straight erp type topics that are very inappropriate. Yet this is fine to them, but they will boot you if you suggest someone should do their job quest for key skills. Community is borked in this game, like a special kind of awful.

"Novice Network: After Dark"? Jesus.

This just makes me more sure of my stance on the necessary removal of the NN and mentorship as a whole.

[Sophie_Lo]

Novice Network and Mentorship should have been dissolved *ages* ago.

[BaconBits]

Peace was never an option.

[MariaArvana]

I said, I believe, very specifically, that this game is ESRB rated "Teen" and that comes with certain expectations and general rules. And you can choose to break them and generally people won't care. But if you got busted for breaking the rules, you deal with the consequences.

Except the ESRB also specifically says:

-Online interactions not rated by the ESRB.

It's because the 'T' rating for the game only applies to the actual game content of the game, not content that arises by interaction of users. otherwise, every game with online communications would have to be an automatic AO rating since anyone can bring up adult topics.

It's by Square's choice they punish people for profanity/etc, not because of the game's rating creating certain expectations; let's get that accurate. Plenty of other games are rated T and don't ban/punish for profanity/adult topics in their online environments.

[kaynide]

Except the ESRB also specifically says:

-Online interactions not rated by the ESRB.

Did you not read the entire thread? Or, rather, what’s your point?

The only real response I guess I have for you is a) a quote from Vidu and b) yeah, of course SE chooses to enforce a Teen-friendly environment of play in their Teen rated game with rules from their ToS.

This seems to be a common missunderstanding - the whole "Online interactions not rated by the ESRB"-thing does not mean that you can behave however you want. Its simply a "disclaimer" to protect the ESRB so that parents cant blame (or even sue) them if their child ends up in creepy or just inapproriate online interactions.

I know its gotten "meme-status" by now, but to quote from the ToS that you agreed to when you first started playing this game:

“ 3.3 Profanity and Offensive Language. You may not use profanity or any language that a reasonable person would find offensive. The Game is for players aged 13 and older. You agree to behave accordingly.”

So, even though the ESRB cant rate online interactions, SE makes it very clear in their ToS that they want all online interactions to be "teen-friendly". Probably because they made sure that their game would be rated "teen" by the ESRB (and similar organisations in other countries) so that they would have a larger customer/playerbase. If you dont behave accordingly, you're out - thats the deal, thats what you agreed to.

So, despite the online interactions not been rated by the ESRB, I'd say parents can have the reasonable expectation that the game - including online interactions - is going to be alright for their teens to play. And we should all play it with the expecations that teens are around - and that we'll get punished if we dont behave accordingly, since thats what we agreed to before we even set foot into Eorzea.

People really need to understand that and stop arguing that just because "Online interactions not rated by the ESRB" they dont need to behave like their are potentially minors around.

[johnnylogen1337]

Caurcas was making an inside joke about how they should report people more often because in actuality they don't care about reporting anyone but it seems everyone is so uppity and ready to go when anyone says anything remotely close to criticism.

i see, i was not aware of it. nonetheless the people they are parodying very much exist so my point stands, minus the personal accusations.

Me personally the report button has become a feel good button, someone does anything to remotely annoy you? Report. You can probably get them on something.

I've did that once because someone kicked me from a farm party because I didn't pass on a weapon for someone the party lead was simping for. WHM asks me as SCH to pass AST emerald weapon, I say "No." only thing I said in the 5 runs I was there, dude gets uppity and hits me up with "Wow, rude." and kicks me directly afterwards.

cant tell if its satire anymore but that, to me, is a justified report.

Your post on someone getting banned because they AFK'd on someone's house is very suspicious as there is really no information or evidence. Just a twitter with a single reply where the poster says "I got banned for AFKing on someone's house". Who's to say it wasn't something else and that the ban kicked in while he was AFKing.

Especially since GMs do not regularly give a reason for bans because it could identify the person with a complaint, I highly doubt your friend was told "banned because AFKing on someone's house".
Happy to be proven wrong, but unless you've got SSs, I wouldn't believe this.

looked at in a vacuum it seems completely insane but judging from what i heard and experienced firsthand it sadly does not seem very far-fetched.

Eh I am only half joking. Off topic and general chatter in novice network is fine. Socialization is rad. However, some "mentors" have taken to what they call novice network after dark on Siren. It basically turns the chat into borderline or straight erp type topics that are very inappropriate. Yet this is fine to them, but they will boot you if you suggest someone should do their job quest for key skills. Community is borked in this game, like a special kind of awful.

lmao yeah novice network is its own kind of devil, the mentor system as it is right now is way too easily accessible and anyone that wants to be one can get it by simply leveling up jobs...which as we all probably have witnessed is not exactly a guarantee of understanding said jobs. mentors should be manually curated (i think this is the word), and work closely with GMs in terms of responsibility. they are supposed to be the shining beacon of the community, an example of a good and knowledgable player.
as it exists right now, all the mentor status gives you is a virtual dunce hat and the privilege to spout nonsensical misinformation to new players.