Been in jail the past few days.

[Caurcas]

This thread is really reminding me I should report the goings on for my servers novice network more. Some primo 3.3 violators in there.

[Nethereal]

This thread is really reminding me I should report the goings on for my servers novice network more. Some primo 3.3 violators in there.

Should start reporting everyone for anything I think remotely violates ToS even if I don't care.

[lezard21]

I get it, I do, but the game rating is “teen” and we’re I a parent allowing my 13 y.o. daughter to play this (or any online game really), I would be unhappy if other players were allowed to freely talk in disgusting language.

This is exactly the same line of thought 90's moms had when anime that was advertised as Teen or Mature had to recolor their blood green and call it sweat, or have Dragon Ball dub sending villains to "the next dimension" under fear that their children might become drug abusing psychopaths. It turned out TV was not a nanny nor a replacement for parenting.

Well, got news for you millenial mom. The internet is also not a nanny nor a replacement for parenting.

[Mirhd]

This is exactly the same line of thought 90's moms had when anime that was advertised as Teen or Mature had to recolor their blood green and call it sweat, or have Dragon Ball dub sending villains to "the next dimension" under fear that their children might become drug abusing psychopaths. It turned out TV was not a nanny nor a replacement for parenting.

Well, got news for you millenial mom. The internet is also not a nanny nor a replacement for parenting.

I'm sensing the veiled "Shut up, Karen", which is heavily over used to silence criticism. Cute. Anyway~

It's not even remotely the same thing, kiddo. You're talking about something that was needlessly censored to bring it down a level vs something that was intended to be Teen from the get go. Abide by the rules or jog on. Simple.

[Quintessa]

You have to keep reporting and saying that you're waiting for a GM. IIRC there's a cooldown period between reports(so you can't spam them).


I don't know why they don't have a "let GM know you're online" button of some sort, because the report button itself shouldn't be used just to notify a GM that you're in jail waiting.. isn't that tying up the system for actual reports?

Edit: Before I forget, the lodestone is governed by the same GM system. If you screw up with people on the lodestone, that counts as screwing up in the game. In other words, if you get banned from the lodestone, you're banned from the game as well.

Well, got news for you millenial mom.

Really not necessary to label someone based on the era of which they were born. .

[kaynide]

This is exactly the same line of thought 90's moms had when anime that was advertised as Teen or Mature had to recolor their blood green and call it sweat, or have Dragon Ball dub sending villains to "the next dimension" under fear that their children might become drug abusing psychopaths. It turned out TV was not a nanny nor a replacement for parenting.

Well, got news for you millenial mom. The internet is also not a nanny nor a replacement for parenting.

Um, I never advocated or asked anyone to "protect the children".

I said, I believe, very specifically, that this game is ESRB rated "Teen" and that comes with certain expectations and general rules. And you can choose to break them and generally people won't care. But if you got busted for breaking the rules, you deal with the consequences.

You DID read my posts right?

I'll try to break it down for you:

A) If I somehow took my kids to a stripper club or a "hedonist" beach, I would be an absolute idiot (and a Karen), were I to complain about topless women or sexual goings-on, yeah? Basically what idiots did when they complained about Deadpool not being a kids' movie. I assume we agree there.

B) If I took my kids to a family friendly beach or a hamburger shop which advertised as being for children I would be within my rights to complain about people getting it on in front of everyone, or topless waitresses. I mean, there's a reason Hooters goes as close to that line as they can without crossing it.

To your anime example: you do realize that there are broadcasting rules which determine age ratings, and that certain channels (Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon, etc) were trying to lock in a specific after-school-teenage demographic, yes? And at that time if they decided to keep certain aspects and bump up the rating it would have been a huge problem for their sponsors/advertisers, etc? It was a lot less about Karens than it was straight cash money.

[johnnylogen1337]

hey gamers we have murder and rape in our videogame but we draw the line at bad swear words
i think this argument is completely insane, if a teen is able to read and understand what is going on in the world of ffxiv, how are swear words a problem? yes, i am aware of the ESRB rating, it just doesnt make sense to me. i also dont understand why people cant just use the blacklist function and instead feel the need to be vicious and take up way more of their time to use the report function.
theres a reason why people are afraid to use any public channels to talk because anything and everything could be bent in a way that a "reasonable" person could find offense to. the report system is a complete joke, people get jailed for anything but reasonable things. a very good example of this is to be found here: https://twitter.com/Sorriow/status/1...214716928?s=20
you said funny thing in your pf? boom banned. you used an emote one too many times? boom banned. you said a word someone doesnt like? boom banned. you have a bit of banter with your friend in saychat and called him an idiot? boom banned.
another good example is in that thread: https://twitter.com/fuma_shuriken/st...606149126?s=20

here a person reported by someone because they AFK'd ontop of someones house. anyone can make up a reason why they would be offended by something, maybe they just dont like that person and are looking for fodder to get them banned, which is rather easy to find given the TOS, and SE has to act as per their own rules. this makes witch hunts a very easy thing to do and leaves a dangerous precedent. obviously there are no proofs of these things happening because SE conveniently doesnt disclose those, but speaking from personal experience and many others i can very much believe it.
SE has made the rules completely arbitrary and ambiguous and the people abusing this are turning an MMO, where the social part, meeting random people, hearing peoples opinions, talking about random topics are amongst the most fun things you can do, into a communicative wasteland populated by little behaving minions. it is sad.

This thread is really reminding me I should report the goings on for my servers novice network more. Some primo 3.3 violators in there.

people like you are part of the problem and personally i will avoid your type because i find you quite frankly, annoying and boring. but would i go out of my way to report you for being that way? no, why would i? i really dont see a reason why people cant just live and let live. if you just want people like you in your own little bubble to play the videogame with then you have options for that, they are called free companies and linkshells. but i for one value diversity of personalities and it is sad to see people so stubbornly insist on having it their way and ruin what makes online games so fun.
and before anyone wants to point out the flaw in my "live and let live" philosophy, obviously things like hatespeech, actual harrassment, racism, transphobia etc. etc. should be and stay reportable, those have no place anywhere period. especially not in a place where LGBTQ+ and other minorities can escape to from their real life abuse.

[Nethereal]

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Caurcas was making an inside joke about how they should report people more often because in actuality they don't care about reporting anyone but it seems everyone is so uppity and ready to go when anyone says anything remotely close to criticism.

Me personally the report button has become a feel good button, someone does anything to remotely annoy you? Report. You can probably get them on something.

I've did that once because someone kicked me from a farm party because I didn't pass on a weapon for someone the party lead was simping for. WHM asks me as SCH to pass AST emerald weapon, I say "No." only thing I said in the 5 runs I was there, dude gets uppity and hits me up with "Wow, rude." and kicks me directly afterwards.

[BunniEclair]

Worst thing I can think I did recently was joking and calling the compound on PB the "cumpound".

That you got jailed for this is hilarious, I’m sorry.

[kaynide]

yes, i am aware of the ESRB rating, it just doesnt make sense to me.

The ESRB rating (and ToS) is the entire issue, full stop, regardless of your understanding of how or why it works.




Your post on someone getting banned because they AFK'd on someone's house is very suspicious as there is really no information or evidence. Just a twitter with a single reply where the poster says "I got banned for AFKing on someone's house". Who's to say it wasn't something else and that the ban kicked in while he was AFKing.

Especially since GMs do not regularly give a reason for bans because it could identify the person with a complaint, I highly doubt your friend was told "banned because AFKing on someone's house".
Happy to be proven wrong, but unless you've got SSs, I wouldn't believe this.