Why you can't kick people in combat?

[Roeshel]

This is really starting to bother me, especially during raids. I was this close to getting rid of a leech tank, all of the dps stopped dpsing, wanted to wipe and kick him but our sprout healer did not stop healing.

For how long has this option been like that? Why is this game so leech friendly?

[Jojoya]

Because it would be far too easy to kick players who have done nothing wrong during the last boss to hog all the loot to yourself.

From the sound of things, not everyone agreed with you that the tank was leeching.

[TeraRamis]

Because it would be far too easy to kick players who have done nothing wrong during the last boss to hog all the loot to yourself.

From the sound of things, not everyone agreed with you that the tank was leeching.

I'm so tired of this attitude in the playerbase - as if everyone is so eager to abuse mechanics, and, concurrently, that there aren't bad apples out there, every day, making life obnoxious for everyone. There's this wrongheaded notion that we should all just carry these people who are guiltlessly griefing the entire community because the alternative is 'mean.'

Well, I'd prefer mean to stupid any day.

[Jojoya]

I'm so tired of this attitude in the playerbase - as if everyone is so eager to abuse mechanics, and, concurrently, that there aren't bad apples out there, every day, making life obnoxious for everyone. There's this wrongheaded notion that we should all just carry these people who are guiltlessly griefing the entire community because the alternative is 'mean.'

Well, I'd prefer mean to stupid any day.

Who's saying everyone is eager to abuse game systems? Not me.

But I'm not going to act stupid and deny that it doesn't happen. I've seen it happen many times over the years I've been playing MMOs (one memorable occasion in WoW the raid leader disbanded the raid just as the boss hit 1% and the dots already on the boss would be enough to kill it). It's another one of those "it's why we can't have nice things situations" - there are enough untrustworthy players that developers have to put restrictions on everyone so those few have less opportunity to abuse the rest.

Laws and rules exists because some, not all, choose to abuse things for their selfish personal benefit at cost to others. Societies over the centuries have found that's not a good thing to allow and so laws/rules get created. Those who do the right thing are rarely negatively impacted and they've got protection when faced with those who choose to do the wrong thing.

If someone has been griefing your party, then initiate the vote kick as soon as combat has stopped. You've got a brief period after a wipe on a trial/raid boss to accomplish this. As long as the vote gets initiated before combat starts back up, others can cast their vote after it begins (I have seen the vote kick pass after the boss gets pulled).

If the rest of the group doesn't want to kick the troublemaker, then leave the group. I've done that myself on a few occasions. It's not worth the headache of sticking around and it's not like I'm going to lose my only chance to do the content.

[ZedxKayn]

Think about the tank's feelings!

[Evergrey]

Think about the tank's feelings!

Sticks and Stones may break my bones.
But no armour is thick enough to protect my feelings.

I know it doesn't rhyme.

[LaylaTsarra]

Nothing wrong with the kick feature as it is right now. I'd like to see them add it however to duties like Delubrum Reginae,

[Aelin_Ashryver]

People would just kick to stop people looting. Leechers are not so often there. Mostly I see them in MSQ jus afk at the start of the area. They are easy enough to kick usually.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Nothing wrong with the kick feature as it is right now. I'd like to see them add it however to duties like DR,

Don’t forget CLL and the newly added Dalriada.

I get it that the dev wants more content that accommodate the less experienced player by having them semi-carried by the more experienced players—I am perfectly fine by that. It’s those 100% deadweight freeloader that bothers me somewhat.

Sure, all it takes is to call them out without actually naming them directly to get them start actually working together, or leave the instance (or that’s probably a fake dc, who knows). That however, gets old pretty quick.

/shrug

[LaylaTsarra]

Don’t forget CLL and the newly added Dalriada.

True those should be added too. No reason to not have a kick feature for those who AFK or DC on purpose. We had a tank the other day DC on start of DR only to come back during the duty and see we were at the 4th boss, leave again and then return once more for the last boss. Party kicked him from the party but he was still in the instance.