Relo mechanics are Cancer

[Jojoya]

Moreover, ARR pricing in the modern era obviously hasn't been tried. So clearly it doesn't stand among all the (working) solutions you're attacking.

ARR pricing was intended to bleed servers of the excessive gil accumulated by legacy players, not create housing exclusivity and lower demand.

Who has that sort of gil now? The players who have been playing for several years and likely already have houses. Those who want multiple houses will still be able to buy more houses with their alts on other worlds using the MBs to move gil around, or buy them with alts on the same world using shell FCs.

40 million gil may not seem like a lot to you or me. We can buy multiple houses with the gil we already have.

For newer players, it's a huge sum. They won't have the gil and thus be cut out of the market. They're also going to have a much harder time raising the gil trying to get into the market as the crafting changes this expansion (and related bot incursion to the marketboard) have severely cut into profit margins on the MB.

That makes it all that much easier for the players who already have houses to obtain more because they don't have to put in the effort. They already have the gil at hand and the competition for what's available has been removed due to the price increase.

Increasing price doesn't reduce actual demand. It just reduces who's capable of buying with gil earned through normal game play, building resentment and encouraging players desperate to own a house to resort to RMT.

[Catstab]

For newer players, it's a huge sum. They won't have the gil and thus be cut out of the market.

That's ...... that's entirely the point. Did you not read my post or something?

5k houses, 20k people.

They only way to work this out is:
A. Make 15,000 more houses
B. Make it so only 5,000 of your 20,000 qualify for housing.

So if housing costs 40 million gil, people with 3 million gil are out playing FF14 doing quests and dungeons and crafting and hunts and raids, not standing around the wards being mad at every other player who is doing the same. 40 million takes a couple months to earn even today, and that's if you're taking your sweet time about it.

[Almagnus1]

That's ...... that's entirely the point. Did you not read my post or something?

5k houses, 20k people.

They only way to work this out is:
A. Make 15,000 more houses
B. Make it so only 5,000 of your 20,000 qualify for housing.

So if housing costs 40 million gil, people with 3 million gil are out playing FF14 doing quests and dungeons and crafting and hunts and raids, not standing around the wards being mad at every other player who is doing the same. 40 million takes a couple months to earn even today, and that's if you're taking your sweet time about it.

There are better ways to bleed gil from the economy other than promoting RMT for houses and slowing down the acquisition of gil for most players. FC houses make sense for the increased cost because you have a bunch of people working together... player houses do not.

[Jojoya]

That's ...... that's entirely the point. Did you not read my post or something?

5k houses, 20k people.

They only way to work this out is:
A. Make 15,000 more houses
B. Make it so only 5,000 of your 20,000 qualify for housing.

So if housing costs 40 million gil, people with 3 million gil are out playing FF14 doing quests and dungeons and crafting and hunts and raids, not standing around the wards being mad at every other player who is doing the same. 40 million takes a couple months to earn even today, and that's if you're taking your sweet time about it.

So why do you want to cut players out of the market? So you can feel like a special snowflake?

It will take the majority of players more than a few months to earn 40 million gil with the current marketboard conditions. They don't play enough hours per week even though they are playing weekly plus prices have severely tanked on the MB for most items due to crafting changes and the surge in bot activity in multiple areas of the game. They don't have 10 retainers on their character to flood the MB with everything and anything they get their hands on.

Sorry, I can't agree with cutting players out of the housing market just because they don't play the game the way you and I do. If a change needs to be made, it needs to be to force existing owners to make use of their housing on a regular basis instead of just needing to walk in once every 6 weeks to reset a timer.