Quote Originally Posted by Raelsar View Post
The problem with this sort of argument is that I've had the misfortune of seeing the tool get misused countless other times (mostly in WoW, and almost always as a bystander)... the times it's used as a "reality check" for players who are unaware of how bad they are doing or to put toxic players in line are few and far between.

A bit of an arbitrary number, but 90%+ of the time it was used to enable toxic behaviour; usually stroking their own ego due to big numbers or harassing another player for underperforming. And yes, it bled into even the lowest level group content; you would be kicked from the equivalent of Satasha for not performing perfectly, it really got that ridiculous. It's not the root cause of it, but the mechanism used by toxic individuals to justify their attitudes and behaviours.

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In any case, the root cause of all the back and forth in this thread over whether or not parsers would be a good thing comes down to one side seeing the potential benefits... and the other side looking at the hellhole that is the WoW community has become, along with their chronic misuse of parsers (among other things) to justify toxic behaviour and arbitrary gatekeeping.

Pro-parsers seem to be deriving their arguments from the hope that they'll be used appropriately.
Anti-parsers need only look at WoW to see ample proof of how it can all go wrong.

There's certainly a "better safe than sorry" angle to all of this, but after seeing the other side and how far a community can sink when tools like these enable toxic behaviours? There's more than enough reason to play it safe and simply avoid implementing a tool that's more likely to have disastrous consequences than actually help players.
I mean I get your experience with WoW had a high use if harrassment and misuse. Though I am sure others had very different experiences. Like myself do not get me wrong I did see harassment and misuse though generally most of my experience would fall in the neutral or pleasant encounter.

Though I do get if one has had an overly negative experience with them in the past why they would be so against them.